Does Your Crew Hurt You?
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Topic: Does Your Crew Hurt You?
Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Subject: Does Your Crew Hurt You?
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 9:45pm
My crew luke seems to have this amazing talent of elbowing me in the face  . Anyone been hurt by your crew? and would like to share their traumatic experiences
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Posted By: bigman chris
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 9:50pm
yeh my crew hurt me quite bad. we had a fully battened main and a very light wind day. when we tacked the battens didnt pop so with him telling me he grabed the boom and pulled it as hard as he could, and my head connected with the boom quite nicely ive never let him live it down------------- fireball what ever i can lay my hands on blackwater sailing club |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 10:13pm
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Had that one happen to me, nowadays coming out of tacks in light airs, I'll stamp on the wing when just crossed to pop the battens, works a treat. ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 10:13pm
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My crew used to beat me with the jib stick when I started getting too grumpy in competitive situations. I sail a singlehander now as I used to respond by dropping the mainsheet when her head was near the kicker... ------------- Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer. |
Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 10:22pm
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haha. ive elbowed my dad in the face a few times sailing the 400. I just say it was for the abuse I got all the way up the beat ------------- 
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 10:31pm
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A good one on the 5000 was smacking the crew with the tiller extension ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 10:38pm
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This is an old classic! The other is the crew elbowing the helm doing the spin hoist Helms this is how you get your own back (some may only apply to skiffs): 1. When you pitchpole be sure to use the crew as a cushion by sandwiching them between you and the mast. Much less painful this way. 2. and my fave, when you are both sitting in, in light winds pull the trapeze towards you, aim at the back of the unsuspecting crew's head and release! The effect is immediate. 3. Not really painful, but abuse the crew for a slow hoist while standing on the spin halyard on the cockpit floor. |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 11:43pm
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Well I'm a crew and I think we get much more abuse than helms do!!!!!!! ...........though I do have a few ways of getting my own back ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 12:11am
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"Kita watch out for that mast, oops sorry, too late!" ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 3:53am
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No, but I hurt the crew often....... But he is a good sport and takes it. We have had his fingerst down to flesh towards the end of regattas and put them back together with electrical tape, put the goves over the top and he is right to hoist the kite again After the invention of Bow Sprits (no more spinnaker poles in the head), the skipper can feel pretty safe at the back of the boat now. |
Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 7:26am
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My crew nearly broke my nose at an open meeting at bala, and had the cheek to tell me off for sailing past the mark!! The fact i was laid out in the back of the (recently purchased) boat clearly didn't matter. |
Posted By: Skiffe
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 8:05am
If you only get to the mast your not doing it right As for standing on the halyard, it sounds like a poor setup ------------- 12footers. The Only Way to FLY Remember Professionals built the titanic, Amateurs built the ark. |
Posted By: BOABS
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 9:14am
| A friend of mine was whacked over the head with a spinnaker pole by his crew. Sadly they don't sail together anymore. Truth is they are now divorced as well!!!! Ha, ha , ha |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 11:06am
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Dennis darling ......I won't let you get anywhere near my mast!!! ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 11:51am
The 29er, RS800 and some 14's all the halyard run back to a block on shock cord attached to the back of the boat, it's easy to do in each of them |
Posted By: charlie w
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 12:27pm
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The best I heard of was a dutch FD pair who did the Bandol 49er worlds as their 1st sail in a assymetric boat. The 1st tack off the start line that they survived, the helm (unused to trapezing and helming) unclipped in such a way as to re-clip the crew onto the aft trapeze wire. The crew was surprised on reaching the middle of the boat (under the boom) to discover that he was now reclipped - having just unclipped. As the boat capsized, the helm fell back onto the mainsail, landing on top of his crew who was still trying to unclip, on the other side of the mainsail. As the crew finally managed to unclip, the trapeze ring popped up and hit him on the nose. Ow.... They both came out laughing, but I guess that is just 49er sailing...!
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 2:03pm
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If you are in a sindle trap boat and want to get you own back.... Just drop your trailing foot in to the drink the shoot of ice cold water gets the helm straight in the face. He did try beating me with the tiller one day so I kicked him out the boat (literally) he never did it again .Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Jamie
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 2:48pm
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If you have a self retriving kite pole and you time it right you can catch the helm right in the middle of the forehead. If the elastic it tight enough it all happens a bit quick for them to see it coming. Of course they can teabag you, but there are things you can do in revenge for that as well.
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 3:04pm
you usally manege to teabag yourself......... Oxford......... Rutland.......... Hungary........ ------------- ...yesterday I couldnt spell enginner...now I are one!...... |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 3:27pm
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good one i do it to fly my crew on the wire over tenders on morings. and drop them in by "accadently" dropping the maisheet always a fun one. o the good old tiller extension is good. as i sail a twin string it is easy to bash the crew. shame is with my crew he used to give all that he took so i would get very wet on the wire or suddenly find my trap ajuster drop upwind. all good fun.
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Posted By: Jamie
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 3:36pm
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Posted By: Offshoretiger
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 3:44pm
OK so things broke a couple of times. But nothing broke in Hungary, you just disapered in the middle of the gybe I get the feeling Im really going to need to watch myself on the gybes now, that kite pole hurts......................
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Posted By: Olly4088
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 5:53pm
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My crew/ girlfriend has long hair which she refuses to tie out of the way so when we go up wind i occasionally get whipped in the eye, so she is the one hurting me instead of the other way round ------------- Phantom 1298 |
Posted By: Sumo
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 5:56pm
My crew is usually to busy hurting himself 
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 6:17pm
I was going to say something else about masts but I remembered the bolt-cutters thing All I can say is you'd better hope your mate is coming to the 4k/5k nats ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 6:53pm
my personal fave to get the crew is to push 1 of his feet off the gunwhale when he isnt looking, or just push him forwards so he loses footing and ends up stumbling and falling round to the bow - Very entertaining! and as was earlier mentioned; it is very easy to add a little bit more halyard friction for the crew in the 29er!
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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 7:12pm
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Best one is to set the kite up wrong, go for a pre-race launch and send the crew up the front to sort it. They really love you for it! ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 7:30pm
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u cheacky banker. well i might just slip and "accidently" ebow u in the face. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 8:28pm
I have remembered about the bolt cutters and she is........just to see you Dennis ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 8:31pm
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yes I know that one.......my 49er helm seems to do that a lot recently ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 8:41pm
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Lesson to be learnt, never let a helm near the pointy end of a boat! Just thought of duck taping the kite sheets to the front of the boat! ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: ssailor
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 9:47pm
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One way of getting your helm back on a 14 is to accidently sheet out on
the main when they are about to hook on ha ha ha just remember to swing
in before they fall in backwards let go of the trap handle and go
swimming!
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 9:51pm
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yer but unfrotunitly for me that is how alex gets me back in the 4k! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 5:13pm
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the feva is a great boat to send the crew to sort out the kite in because it is incredibly unstable with the bows down. there is nothing better than watching your crew swimming to the kite halyard while your nice and dry on the dagger board ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Ellie
Date Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 5:19pm
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getting on the fordeck of a merlin in waves and breeze is pretty chuffing wobbly. had to do it a hamble warming pan, luckily we were reaching into the estuary so the wave could have been worse. kept it upright tho, thank gawd, it was plenty cold without a swim! my helm has squirted juice at me on countless occations, which is abit cheeky when he expects me to still be able to fly the kite with juice in my eye! |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 5:49pm
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ok this isnt deliberate but its a great way to anoy the crew: have your toestrap break on the last beat. providing its warm i think it would be okay. i have done this once infront of the clubhouse and twice in the last 2 weeks. it was cold. time for new toestraps, sewing them up just isnt the same. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 6:47pm
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My old 12 helm got us to the first mark in the warming pan 2nd, just behind the then nat champ. He was so excited he fell out of the boat backwards, but held onto the mainsheet to make sure I went in too! Git. ------------- |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 6:49pm
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BTW, he also wore a bloody deerstalker hat in the winter series. I swear it was just to embarrass me... ------------- |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 24 Mar 06 at 7:11pm
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i have always clung onto the mainsheet when the toestraps break in the feva because the tiller extension bends and never bends back. its not just to anoy my crew honest. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 7:48pm
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talking about falling out of boats i did that last week in the 4k went out on trapeze after hoisted kite and *splash* the wire had broke. and i was surfing behind the boat with the sheet, ------------- International 14 1503 |
. (only good thing he didPosted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 8:25pm
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oh it was fun yesterday, my crew finally realised why i'm the helm... so he shields me from spray(hiking boat). hahaha he was siiick.
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Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 4:13pm
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yeh crews are soo much cheaper than spray tops ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 4:38pm
thats the good thing with single wire boats....short crew and taller helm means I can't take all the spray from getting him! ......Les...bite tounge now!  ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 4:49pm
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but if you have a single wire boat dont you want the taller (heavier) person on the wire to get more leverage? ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 6:24pm
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not in a crew equalisation boat..... ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 6:29pm
omg this weekend at the feva open, i got teabagged in a feva!!! omg thats never happend, im jsut minding my own business hiking out while the boats plaingn along, suddenly james shouts 'gybing!!!' and i stay in my toestraps and get dunked while the boat comes on top of me, i then go head first into the water upside down and get dragged along. i then fall off and climb in thru the back much to james' amusment ,,, and the people on shore...  ------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...) Feva 251 RS200 1117 RS200 897 |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 6:37pm
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yeh wel we got our mast stuck in the mud. and it wouldnt come out even with 11 stone on the dagger board. then my sis climbed up and it was ok. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: Pondling
Date Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 7:39pm
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yeah i no psc is famous for that, shudve warned u, btw ur signature thihng is my dads fave motto and the reason he always has wd 40 and duct tape with him,,, speaking of duct tape, what is it u said to craig? ------------- Sailors don't get old!!! They get a little dinghy (or skiff, or yacht...) Feva 251 RS200 1117 RS200 897 |
Posted By: mike ellis
Date Posted: 28 Mar 06 at 4:33pm
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if craig was the guy with the camera in the rib at that overcrowed windward mark and chaotic gybe mark i think i was either telling him very loudly that it wasnt our fault and i nearly middle fingered him at the gybe mark. NEARLY. i had a very bad race and was slightly stressed the last thing i needed was a bloke with a camera filming us and telling us we'd got it wrong. ------------- 600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it. Also International 14, 1318 |
Posted By: andy_cherub
Date Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 12:00am
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My crew doesnt hurt me - he just likes to go swinging around the forestay in a big breeze............... he seems to like it as he was very keen, a little toooo keen id say about puttin a bigger rig on my boat! hahahaahha - bless the little fairy (in-house joke) ------------- -12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites' -Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |