I would love a Topper Topaz Uno Race X, I'm looking for one that is in quite good condition for a reasonable price. If there is anyone who has one for sale or knows someone that might be selling could they please contact me on my e-mail: mailto:wicked_bob@hotmail.co.uk - wicked_bob@hotmail.co.uk

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Its not that bad without the Jib and sailed singlehanded in lots of wind

na it is a narsty plastic boat  if anything go for the rs vareo!

iv sailed the vareo (i have one) and iv had a go in a topze tbh if your going to get one of them you may as well get the normal topper evan that is a better boat (that is very sad)

if you want any info on the vareo just ask

buy one now there the best

Why for the love of God WHY?? It must be the heaviest worst fitted out poorly designed piece of junk I've ever sailed.

At sunsail half the fleet of 12 of them were always out of action. It takes 3 people to pick one up! It even has the same rudder fittings as a topper when this thing has an asy. spin and fully battened main

Sorry! Quite right, doesn't work at all on this forum...

Topaz is a complete waste of the world's oil resources, the boat shouldn't be touched with a barge pole and instead you should buy either a Cherub or an MPS, both of which have the incredibly powerful internet presence you need for a sailing dinghy.

Better?

firstly is the person that put thison hear acherly reading it he has not put any thing els on hear and i i was him i would want to know more about the classes menchond

also we are all talking about lots of diffrent classes but that is the mine problem if we all got the same boat (not laser) that was a good boat im not going to argue what it should be (vareo) then we would all get very good racing which we are not geting at club leval at the momrnt unless you have a laser or ff (at my club dont know about others) but then when we traval to an open or nats yer geting the samee numbers than we get in a club race of laser at grafham and we would not get people like topper constanly desinging new boats that are a load of rubish we have had the xeon thing topaze there new vibe thing is comeing along what is the pont

(not my falt theres bad spelling)

now comment dont slate me for saying it thow

He's probably been scared away, he only wanted a boat to mess about in!

Thanks for all your replys, but I want it because whilst it may not be the quickest boat on the water, it is nice to have the versatility of being able to put the basic sail back on it or put the jib on for a bit of family sailing fun, especially when I want to sail alone in rough weather, I have sailed the basic sail and I've heard from others that it has a very nice handicap for racing (it gives a false picture of how fast it actually goes).

 Happy Chatting

WickedBob - have you tried the Feva?  IMHO - having sailed both - it's far better built and quicker (or at least feels it - I don't know what the PY is), whilst still giving you all the flexibilty of family sailing plus single-handed fun.

Unless your over say 11 stone (you can weigh more but you won't be very competitive).....the ACTUAL Topper may be worth a look as you can sail it in VERY strong weather, the boat has been made MUCH better to sail with the development of the worlds race kit; the new cut of sail; the optional 4.2 sail if you have a small person learning;centre main! I don't know how many people have tried the Topper with the new developments but it makes it a lovely boat sail sail and you actually get a good hiking technique without doing the wierd twisty hike thing like with aft main.

And you can sail with your kids becuase first they can come out with you, then you could add the Topper jib kit (yes there is one) and once they really got the hang of it they could have a go helming and eventually go out on their own with the smaller 4.2 sail!

Although i realise you did say you wanted a topaz so in actual fact don't change your mind just becuase we said its not an excellent boat, if you have tried it and enjoyed it thats what sailing's about so never mind the construction, if you enjoy it, go for it!

I spotted this 4.2 rig at the show last weekend... in my topper days we just used to wrap the sail round the mast a couple of times if it got too windy... now you have to buy a seperate sail? Im sure reefing isnt the most efficient way to sail compared to a specialised no2 rig but I cant see it making that much difference when your talking about a bit of cloth smaller than my new jib will be...

whats this 'new cut of sail' thing about too? isnt it sposed to be a strict one design?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOPPER-TOPAZ-UNO-RACE-PLUS-SAILING-DINGHY-BOAT_W0QQitemZ7223975603QQcategoryZ98955QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOPPER-TOPAZ-UNO-RACE-PLUS-SAILING-DIN GHY-BOAT_W0QQitemZ7223975603QQcategoryZ98955QQrdZ1QQcmdZView Item

This is on ebay at the moment...

but the mast looks way too far forward. also it doesnt look that big in the pic.

so why did u sell it to sail the topper?

this isnt about what i sail.  i could go on for hours about how good the boat is etc but i am not going to.  u lot are obviously jelous.  or feel threatned about smods cos u are over protective even if i post something about the C word.  think before u post.  helps sometimes

get bent. enough said

We own a Topper Topaz Race Plus, we have the standard rig, the race pack and the race jib making it versatile indeed. You lot are quite welcome to moan a lot about the Topaz but it does actually suit some people, especially us ! It's relatively cheap, compared to the Feva and a bit quicker than a Pico. My wife likes to sail it with the standard sail, I sail it with my five-year-old with the standard sail + jib and with my wife with the race sail + jib. On Sundays I race it with just the race sail, however I'm sure that all the other boats mentioned so far are excellent but most of them are expensive, require more maintenance or not so immediately suitable for a beginner

This is bad because??

I vote for handbags at dawn!!!

tack'ho, you're quite right, the colour is added directly to the mould - at recent shows, Topper have shown dinghies that are moulded in Orange/White and Lime Green/White...........Hmmm, not sure if I like those colours quite so much. It's been suggested that the new Topper Topaz Vibe will be produced in Orange/White, I do hope that this choice doesn't put buyers off, as it looks like a very nice boat indeed, a bit like a mini Xenon - it'll be interesting to see what PY No. it ends up with.

I sat through a stimulating seminar by a rotomoulding consultancy who quite hilariously tried to persuade me that they manufacture "high performance sailing boats" and on the presentation they showed a photo of an escape captiva!

The colour is achieved by adding the first layer of coloured plastic and then this is rotated to give a good spread over the mould. (hence why if you look, the visual appearance is different in each boat) The secondary layer is then added behind this outer layer which is an expanding foam (this apparently adds 'added bulk' and stiffness)

Anther interesting point is that the characteristics of the plastic change due to the colour of the pigment added so the performance will be different throughout the boat as there is a marbled effect.

Timnoyce said:

"Another interesting point is that the characteristics of the plastic change due to the colour of the pigment added so the performance will be different throughout the boat as there is a marbled effect." -

For my Topper Topaz: (see photo on previous posting) - I really hope the White part is no slower than the Purple part........otherwise things are going to get a bit tricky when it tries to overtake itself  ! 

Thank you so much Webmuppet, this is exactly what I've been trying to say all this time.  It fits me perfectly and I might be getting one from someone in Easter, hopefully.

Happy Chatting

I notice that nearly all the topaz uno races in the above pics are using the old semi battened mains the one in the distance has got a full battened rig.

I have found that running the boat in race x mode is better than the standard race as it avoids the downwind tipping due to the angles you have to run to get the most out the the aysmetric. However running the optional race x jib which is larger than the standard gets far to much in the way and so I hardly ever use it.

I have also found that you can avoid the tippyness when not using the aysmetric by using the jib.

those pics are classic p-buster. is that 4 people in the light blue topaz in the distance? 

i think my theory of all yellow boats are cool is floored.

If your only using a main dead down wind then you can expect them to behave like all similar rigged boats.  Just cause they are made of plastic will not stop the dreaded death roll.  I don't imagine the mast is the lightest weight section, which wouldn't help either.

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synchronized capsizing?!?

Now I know I've used this image before - however may I point out that 1) The Topaz Uno Race is the right way up and 2) the boat in the background is a Laser 4000 which may not be the right way up 

yer well the 4k guys at least know how to capsize in stlye. 

just cos u guys think that a good capsize is when u breack ur mast!  i dont think that is possible on a 4k most inderucable boat ever.    u lead an exciting life isis

When I was growing up, a large number of Firefly sailors drove Morris 1000 travellers, complete with rotting woodwork. Went with the boat, somehow, far more than a Volvo or 4X4 does!

As for Cherub sailors, I'm sure they have more class than a 1.2 Nova, but I can see that plywood spoiler in my mind, now - covered in Carbon, of course!

Thanks for all your comments (no matter how far off the point you ended up! ).  I have found and bought a Topaz Race X now and its great

Cheers

Can a forum administrator or moderator, please close my topic now, I no longer want this to continue

Thanks