What boat?
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Topic: What boat?
Posted By: Prince Buster
Subject: What boat?
Date Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 1:05pm
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Can
anyone recommend a non-trapeze, singlehander for a 50 year old weighing
about 70kg? Preferably quite modern, quite fast but fairly easy
to handle. Thinking of a Blaze at the moment but not quite sure. ------------- international moth - "what what?" |
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 2:54pm
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Supernova? Might not be the right street cred, but it's got a good PY and seems easy enough to handle. Besides, there are uglier boats! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 2:58pm
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yeah supernovas are quite good!
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 6:01pm
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What about a Phantom. Carry a large weight range and are handicap bandits in the rights winds although maybe a bit physical for your friend! ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: kasey3000
Date Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 8:13pm
Solo...ok not modern but they are quite a nice boat to sail...and don't death roll downwind!  ------------- 49er 908 |
Posted By: Pabs
Date Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 10:24pm
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Well for me its gotta be the RS300 if you can find one. I think you a bit too light for a Phantom. The Supernova is a good boat easy to sail but slow where as the 300 great boat very quick can be a bit demanding but we do have a 65 year old sailing one who does really well. The rig is spot on and easy to de-power. Defiantly would be my choice check out are website for a test sail at a local club near you if your unsure. We are having are Winter Champs at |
Posted By: Jon Emmett
Date Posted: 13 Feb 06 at 11:53am
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Had you thought about the Laser Radial??? The masters circuit is absolutely fantastic. All those who went to Brazil last year had a great time!!! ------------- http://www.amazon.co.uk/Be-Your-Own-Tactics-Coach/dp/0470973218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312565831&sr=8-1 - |
Posted By: Alex C
Date Posted: 13 Feb 06 at 4:57pm
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I'd say you're about spot on with the Blaze. They also appear to have a very friendly and active association. I've never sailed one, but judging by the increase in numbers built and attendance at opens since the re-development I would say that the association are doing something right. Worth a test sail at the very least....
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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 13 Feb 06 at 6:06pm
Thanks guys. I think my friend will go for the BlazeX but he's
gonna have a look at the RS300. Solo - doesn't look cool enough, same
with supernova.
Wants something more unusual and faster. But thanks for all your replies. ------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 13 Feb 06 at 9:57pm
well i would go for the blazeX they seem like really cool boats. happy boat buying------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 13 Feb 06 at 10:10pm
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blaze x sounds alright to me ------------- |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 20 Feb 06 at 5:44pm
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70 kgs is a bit light for the 300 big rig unless you're very fit/good, (tho I think they've changed the rules so you don't have to use the small rig at that weight), and I always got the impression that the Blaze needed about the same weight as the 300. I may be wrong, but maybe one of the singlehanders aimed at lightweights would be better? I'm thinking Laser rad, streaker, Byte, or maybe a Solo with a wavelength rig. It can be pretty miserable overpowered in a singlehander, believe me! Don't get me wrong, the Blaze looks lovely, but the rig looks pretty powerful. Depends where you sail, of course, if you're on a lake or the open sea... ------------- |
Posted By: DaveT
Date Posted: 15 Mar 06 at 10:54pm
| If you want something a bit different how about an IC? |
Posted By: 29er397
Date Posted: 16 Mar 06 at 8:51am
this is true, but it can also be fantastic fun, and sometimes a bit of an advantage! i sailed a laser full rig for a season when i was 13, weighing in at about 55-60kg, its sprisingly easy to win in light winds. lol. just hard upwid in a f5!!! |
i then demoted my self to a radial for 2 years, lovely boat and lovely people & theres always competition near. i would say test sail all the possibilities and pick your fave out of the bunch.Posted By: Dead Air
Date Posted: 19 Mar 06 at 3:30pm
| If he has some previous sailing experience, how about a low rider moth? there's a guy at my club in that sort of age group that campaigns a moth and an IC! |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 20 Mar 06 at 12:04pm
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yer but both them classes are very expenisve high mantence boats. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 20 Mar 06 at 1:45pm
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here we go again... what makes them any more expensive than your average smod? ------------- |
Posted By: Javelin53
Date Posted: 20 Mar 06 at 1:49pm
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ic is a bit specialised ------------- I hoped the threat would be enough! JAVELIN 53 ENTERPRISE 16691,RESTORATION JOB TOPPER 29388 BUCKENHAM SC |
Posted By: dics
Date Posted: 20 Mar 06 at 4:56pm
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A few 300's advertised from £1,900 to £3K on RS300.com. Rob.e - you know you want to! By the way your old B rig mast is still going stong Rules have changed - any weight can sail any rig but you can only change rigs once a year. Dics |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 21 Mar 06 at 10:10pm
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Yeah, if I could find a fleet.... Good rule change, glad they got it through in the end, it needed doing! How're you getting on with the bigger rig? ------------- |
Posted By: dics
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 9:35am
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Better than the small rig! Pointing is better and the boat seems to more positive and "balanced" - although this is probably due to my unique sailing ability! Sold my old rig and got the money back so a good deal all round. The rule change is the first ever for this class - truely a strict one design and that what makes it attractive on my part - other than the boat being such a blast to sail. Rich |
Posted By: DiscoBall
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 10:53am
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70kg might be a struggle in a Phantom unless your friends pond sailing... |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 6:49pm
or u have a crew of about 70 kg to bring u up to the normal sailing weight of a phantom sailor. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 22 Mar 06 at 7:43pm
Yes, I really noticed the "B" rig pointed better. It was a shame, cos the small rig was so much easier to sail, and I would've done as well with it if I could've pointed OK. As for the one designness (if I can invent a word!) I have been truly amazed at the vitriol and unpleasantness in the Solo clas as they struggle to cope with modern materials (i.e. FRP). It is a good arguament for the modern designs, SMOD or not! ------------- |
Posted By: damp_freddie
Date Posted: 23 Mar 06 at 11:45am
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yeah - blaze or phantom which ever is near you as a fleet
....................or just go for a laser with the new strings and things.... |
Posted By: phantom871
Date Posted: 26 Apr 06 at 5:47pm
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I cant wait to get my phantom picking it up soon. I too tried the blaze but found my knees getting bruised from the rack? It may have just been me. Get the X if you do opt for this!
There do see to be a few International Canoes on the market at the moment, Try one it is the best fun on the water and not as in and outty as say a 600 or a moth! ------------- If its bent pull harder |