What Boat
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Forum Name: Choosing a boat
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Topic: What Boat
Posted By: samw
Subject: What Boat
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 6:30pm
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Hi I am a 17 year old who is new to the uk coming from kenya. I did most of my sailing in lasers and a bit in fireballs, but now am thinking about trying a new class, would be cool to here peoples opinions on which classes are cometitive, and fun to sail |
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 6:34pm
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well how much do you have to spend
i would say moving up from laser a rs vareo would be a good move then you have a kite as well ------------- |
Posted By: samw
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 6:38pm
| I was thinking about £2000ish |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 6:51pm
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I think you need to be more specific or everyone will just tell you to
get the class they sail and love which may not be the best for you. Are you looking for Crewed or sSnglehanded? Hiking, Single trap, Twin string? Are you after a kite? symetric/assymetric? Where is it likely to be sailed? ------------- |
Posted By: shifts suck
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 8:47pm
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get a 29er. there competetive, sociable and people of all ages from 14 - 25. there fast and great fun ------------- I hate sailing at ponds where its shifty but i still sail at the worst of all the ponds! |
Posted By: samw
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 9:24pm
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Since I have not have sailed in a large variaty of boats (just laser 1's and fireballs) I am fairly open to try out various classes, provided that they have an active fleet and you don't have to be too hot to sail them |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 9:27pm
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get a cherub if you dont mind swimming a bit at first ------------- |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 10:06pm
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RS600
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Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 11:11pm
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are you looking to have good close racing or just to have fun sailing areond by your self ------------- |
Posted By: samw
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 9:46am
| Close racing is the main thing although it would be nice to be able to take a mate out on it |
Posted By: samw
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 11:06am
| Thanks for your posts, had a laser in mind anyway cos thats what I used to sail, just wanted to get a feel for what else is out there so will definatly check out RS 600 as well |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 6:22pm
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Il likely get rinsed for saying this as im sure most people on here
have noticed my oppinion of lasers but id agreed with turnturtle. Get what you feel comfortable with to start off and once youve sailed here for a few months you'll be able to make up your own mind on where you want to head next ------------- |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 6:57pm
that must have been hard for you Isis .
But yeah i think you should stick to what you know for now. I can
say from experience that lasers actually have excellent racing all year
round and then if you want to move on you'd be better informed and will
probably make a better decision than you would now.
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 7:13pm
Its ok, ive chocked back the emotion and come through the whole experiance stronger than ever before... WOOOH CHERUBS!!! ------------- |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 7:29pm
i'm glad my laser days are over if i ever sail one again please give me a  ------------- |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 7:41pm
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Btw Stu- I know you can sail a laser pretty well! ------------- |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 8:12pm
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Harry, the vast majority of my SMOD bashing is meant in jest and just
plays on how people get so worked up about the whole thing. If you want to have a chat about my succsess in the laser compared to the moth I sail now knock me up on MSN, im not going to turn this into another debate. Best to keep all the reasons why we're so much better than smodeys in one http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1418 - thread anyway ------------- |
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 8:34pm
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It was meant to be a joke mate- not trying to knock your sailing ability. using the one argument SMODs have, but i don't think we can compete now you have your own smilies etc.! ------------- |
Posted By: olly_love
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 8:35pm
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smods suck. they get really boring and are expensive casue u have to buy the parts from the company. also have u noticed that all laser sailors are t***ts and that its the same with the youth squad. anyway look at getting a feva if you are small or a 505 if youy are large.
Skiff foreva ------------- TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 9:02pm
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All of the Laser sailors? Old and young? Male and female?? No exception????? Blimey, that's an awful lot of people! Have you met them all, dear Mr Love? I fail to understand how that type of comment can help broaden the debate. Please have a look at the numerous (but no so varied) opinions on SMODs in other threads and see that your side of the argument has been done to death, thank you. ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: BBSCFaithfull
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 10:20pm
I am have a laser 1 and helm a 4000. Does that mean that every type of laser sailor is a t***?  ------------- Greatfully Sponsored By www.allgoodfun.com Int 14 GBR 1503!! |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 10:47pm
Don't push it chap ......... |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 11:24pm
SMOD sailing is too expensive esspecially for students, i've found the sailors are not as sociable either, though i have to be carefull with what i say because i did sail lasers for 3 years  ------------- |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 4:16pm
Really Olly......I think you should meet some more then. Laser sailors are generally competitive on the water but friendly enough off (at club level anyway, a lot of the circuit and international crowd take it far too seriously!) Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 6:16pm
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I would have to agree with turnturtle (makes a change I got back into sailing after an 18 year layoff and what did I buy? A laser. It cost me £900 and I had a very enjoyable 12 months in all weathers and temperatures. I then had a slightly frustrating 6 months where I was only enjoying myself when everyone else was going back in because it was too windy (I am 6' and 15+ stone) So I sold the laser (£900) bought 541 and have sailed her twice and done a lot of swimming!!
Buy the laser join a club and go sailing for 12 months and then decide what you want to do, as you will probably not loose much if any money on the laser once you decide to upgrade ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 7:35pm
But are you enjoying it !!
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 9:32pm
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The last ime out, the air temperature was -2C. I had to break the ice off the boat cover and having spent 20 minutes in the water (I could not get her up) I ended up been escorted in by the rescue boat with early stages of hypothermia YES God damn it.... I want the season to start again ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 9:57pm
 Been there done that and still went back for more  ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 10:07pm
That makes me even more determined - I'm going to get a Contender and we'll be able to swap recipes for hot chocolate and good tips on thermals! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 10:44pm
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For some reason I thought that it would be a good idea to get 541 having never been on a trapeze before Now that is a learning curve ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 9:05am
Hear hear to that, my first Laser was £500, I sold it for pretty much the same 2 years later, that not bad going in anyones book! ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: TonyL
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 10:25am
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I was in a similar position in the mid 90's when I came back into sailing after a 10 year lay off. The number of new classes around at that time seemed incredible, but I decided to stick with a class I knew and I bought an old Laser for £500. I sailed it most sundays for 5 seasons then sold it for £400. Once I'd got a 2nd hand sail off one of the top guys I was half competitive at club level. It never came home from the club in all that time too, so from a cost as well as maintenance point of view a decent older Laser is one of sailings real bargains. |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 11:26am
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Does anyone think that the people on the Running casts thread would like to know all about this......Oh hold on we are talking about SMODS that are more than months old. That would be the real world then ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 1:23pm
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well all you have to do to a laser to increase the price is buy a laser that hasnt got a xd kit on it then you have at least uped the price by around 500 and it will only cost u 300
------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 4:06pm
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well u got to know were you priorites lie. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 6:12pm
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How old is that pic. Look at the size of that phone....and Michael Douglas still has the Mk1 face ------------- When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss Crew on 505 8780 |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 27 Jan 06 at 8:01pm
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1987 !!! I was a sweet, innocent 20 year-old How fast things have changed ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 12:25am
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year i was born that was lol ------------- |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 8:40pm
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Jesus!! ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: CurlyBen
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 10:07pm
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Same here
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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 10:32pm
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Oh makes me feel old ! ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 10:52pm
If that makes you feel old, I was born the year after... ------------- |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 11:10pm
------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: bigwavedave
Date Posted: 29 Jan 06 at 9:20am
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In 1987 I had been working for five years, bought a flat, left home four times, and been engaged three times! ( I got my moneys worth out of that ring) ------------- 
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 29 Jan 06 at 4:44pm
i wasnt even born then. i was born 2 years later. well there just numbers. u are only as old as you feel. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 29 Jan 06 at 6:42pm
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yup, born 1987, damn that was a gd year for this world, I arrived!
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 29 Jan 06 at 9:42pm
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Left out the all important two words in that saying...THE WOMAN...bloomin' youth of today can't even get that right! |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 12:22pm
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yer i would of added that if i was saying it to a guy but there are women on this forum aswell. and i dont think bns would like that coment directed towards her. ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 3:51pm
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How well you know me, Carshalton... The first one who tries to feel me will look suddenly very old indeed! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 6:12pm
| Contender443 you have been warned... |
Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 6:20pm
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in 1987 the world still had 3 years to wait to be graced with my presence.
------------- international moth - "what what?" |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 6:51pm
...and for a time: it was good, untill cameth the year of 1990... ------------- |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 7:46pm
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i'd agree with that one! lol got hit by a bus in 1990 ------------- |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 7:53pm
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ouch that doesnt sound good. well bns dont worry about age it is just a number. ------------- International 14 1503 |