Carbon mast on EBAY
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Topic: Carbon mast on EBAY
Posted By: Chris Noble
Subject: Carbon mast on EBAY
Date Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 10:27pm
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yes for all you cherub owners out there, ive herd of someone (is it you strawberry) using a 600 mast like this one on a cherub, nows your chance to get a carbon rig for the price of beans.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/carbon-fibre-dinghy-mast_W0QQitemZ7212844581QQcategoryZ98953QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/carbon-fibre-dinghy-mast_W0QQitemZ7212 844581QQcategoryZ98953QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Posted By: Calum_Reid
Date Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 10:29pm
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Damn you a certain few members of the cherub fleet were trying to keep that a bargin ------------- 
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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 23 Jan 06 at 10:36pm
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lol sorry guys ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 9:29am
it looks like its not a 600 mast to me i may be rong but it has the rong kind of spreaders unless it is the old angle mast  ------------- |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 10:38am
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SHHHHHH!!!!!!! ------------- |
Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 12:54pm
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The ad. says "originally from an rs 600, but you can convert to use it on any dinghy. it has been used on other dinghys before so there a few extra small holes where we attached a spinaker etc". So it's a 600 mast with various non-standard bits & holes (including the spreaders - the Angell 600 masts had the diamond arrangement which AFAIK has been unchanged since day 1). Oops, sorry, shhhh.... |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 8:51pm
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the angel masts were also very very prone to breaking, they are the reason for the insurance being so high for the 600 ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 24 Jan 06 at 10:35pm
Well yes, but that was principally due to the d*** silly alloy sleeve... |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 5:55pm
Its ok lads, you can go back to talking about it all now 
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 25 Jan 06 at 6:33pm
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it got a bit pricy in the end for a broken mast that one i've known of them being sold a lot cheaper ------------- |
Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 8:55am
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Really??? It took the big name spar manufacturers a long time to come up with anything anywhere near as good (esp. in classes which allowed spars from more than one source, and also during development to replace the Angell item for the 600). As Jim says, the ali sleeve thing was a weak point. Mike |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 8:58am
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no im not meaning across the board, im talking about the 600 masts that roger made, i used an angel mast on the moth and it was far better than the previous carbon effort it came with, very light and stiff in the lower section but with good tip for the gusts ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 26 Jan 06 at 9:24am
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Ive got an angel stick on my moth aswell and its a bit more flexy than id like but does seem to be quite light and well built. As for this mast getting to expensive 'at the end' stu, 1 second to go and the highest bid was a comfy £29 which I wouldnt call pricy. Admitedly inside that last second some chunt pushed it up to £56 but id still consider that to be pretty good value.
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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 3:28pm
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Turns out damage was just over 6.1m from the tip (at gooseneck height) Anyone want to hazard a guess what combination of '6' '.' and '1' makes up the length, in metres, of how long I needed my new mast to be? Beut.  ------------- |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 4:10pm
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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 7:06pm
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good buy there then. ------------- |
Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 7:07pm
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ohh yeah i just realised i have an angel mast on my cherub not sailed it yet but when i was sailing round the garden the other day it looked pretty good, in the middle of re coating it now ------------- |
Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 8:09pm
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yeah, the only difference is yours has titanium fittings!! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/bearfootdesign - BEARFOOT DESIGN Cherub 2648 - Comfortably Numb |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 8:11pm
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titanium? care to explain? ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 8:20pm
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The 600 mast has a plastic track so id guess its not the old angel one, who makes the newer ones? superspars?
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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 10:58pm
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Yep superspars, bought mine today and it came with a new superspars
mast with plastic track and a fairly old angel one (which was broken
near the foot!).
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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 28 Jan 06 at 11:42pm
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some of the older super spars ones came with an alloy track ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: MikeBz
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 7:00pm
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Fizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 7:26pm
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If you fancy getting rid of that broken angel mast Mr Buster, holla
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Posted By: Prince Buster
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 8:06pm
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Yeah but the aluminium's shattered inside and it can will only be able
to be used as a reefed 600 sail (which is kind of for the best
really!). About 2 inches of the aluminium needs to be cut of the
carbon mast but i don't know how to do it. I've tried a hacksaw
and chisel but that doesn't work. Any suggestions??
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 8:11pm
I've always just been able to pull alloy sleeving out of carbon spars once all rivets were dealt with. Obviously you have to cut off anything that's distorted though. You could try warming up the carbon with a fan heater and running a hose down the alloy to shring that... |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 8:37pm
When in doubt, you need something that plugs in makes more noise than the next guy... ------------- |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 8:54pm
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very true, have you tried phoning RS ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 9:59pm
Nope, it was me. Here it is...home made spreaders (carbon over balsa) and finished in International Perfection 2 pack. Rigging was from Pete Bond at Severn Sailboats and somehow all the lengths and spreader angles were right first time (although it now has a little more tension in the caps giving more prebend)    ------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 10:07pm
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Is your mast an angel one Iain? mine doesnt seem to have weave on
the outer layer like that, the visable layer is uni fibres wrapped
around at 30 degrees-ish and where it exploded around the gooseneck you
can see where the fibres separated and twisted out
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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 10:17pm
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that mast is an old angle one isis, it looks very very similar to my old moth mast aswell ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 11:05pm
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Quite right Chris, it's an Angel.
------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |