Racing Rules: Mast Passing the centreline after a tack.

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Mast Passing the centreline after a tack.

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Topic: Mast Passing the centreline after a tack.

Posted By: Nacnud_smada
Subject: Mast Passing the centreline after a tack.
Date Posted: 20 Jan 23 at 12:46pm

I was hoping someone could help me out, a few weeks ago i got in a chat about rule 42, and what is allowed and not allowed etc.

A comment was made within the chat about after a tack as "long as the mast does not pass the centre line"....

I cannot find anything in the rules that talks about the mast passing the centreline... have i missed it? can anyone help shed any light on it??

Cheers

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Jan 23 at 1:33pm

Mast passes centre line of what?

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Robert

Posted By: Nacnud_smada
Date Posted: 20 Jan 23 at 1:35pm

Of the boat as its brought up right.

Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 20 Jan 23 at 2:36pm

Can't see how you would stop it passing vertical at least once, when you cross boat and sit down, think they must mean doing it repeatedly, that is propelling, unless you are trying to pop your battens, which you would do with mainsheet.

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Robert

Posted By: Nacnud_smada
Date Posted: 20 Jan 23 at 3:04pm

i thought the same.

thank you !

Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 20 Jan 23 at 5:01pm

I have a feeling that might be a phrase from American College sailing rules, which are strange and not altogether compatible with the actual RRS. The trouble with club discussions is that not all the participants may be aware they are not in line with the current state of the rules. Most of the major international classes issue guidelines on rule 42observance, and they are a good source fpr more detail than the bare text of the rule.

Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 21 Jan 23 at 12:51am

This was once in the rules. Probably the mid eighties era.
It is still used in college sailing in the US.
Those guys really know how to roll tack and gybe, and often get away with it at the Wilson.

Andy

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Andy Mck

Posted By: GML
Date Posted: 23 Jan 23 at 8:59am

If you haven't already done so, you should read the World Sailing Interpretations of Rule 42: http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/Rule42InterpretationsMay21-%5b27359%5d.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/Rule42InterpretationsMay21-[27359].pdf

Without knowing exactly what situation you are thinking about, ROCK 9 could potentially be relevant: "It is permitted to move the mast to windward of vertical at the completion of a tack or a gybe."

Posted By: NicolaJayne
Date Posted: 23 Jan 23 at 10:08am

presumably to stop to 80s/ 90s Style 'Roll tacking battles' as seen in the Ent and N12 fleets

Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 24 Jan 23 at 9:05am

I remember back in the 80s/90s there was a rule or interpretation that the mast should only pass vertical once during a roll tack, I expect that is where your club mates are coming from and I would politely suggest they update their 30 year out-of-date rules knowledge. Do these people also call 'Mast abeam' when you try and luff them?

Posted By: Nacnud_smada
Date Posted: 24 Jan 23 at 9:54am

haha good one,

thank you.

Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 24 Jan 23 at 12:45pm

Not that many years ago I had "mast abeam" called at me!

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Peter
Ex Cont 707
Ex Laser 189635
DY 59

Posted By: KazRob
Date Posted: 24 Jan 23 at 2:13pm

Originally posted by PeterG

Not that many years ago I had "mast abeam" called at me!

It was only a couple of seasons ago I had 'Overtaking boat keeps clear' shouted at me......

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OK 2249
D-1 138

Posted By: Nacnud_smada
Date Posted: 24 Jan 23 at 2:19pm

I got that on a monthly basis, (well last season will see what happens this year)