Just an Illusion
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Category: Dinghy classes
Forum Name: Dinghy development
Forum Discription: The latest moves in the dinghy market
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Topic: Just an Illusion
Posted By: Mark Aged 42
Subject: Just an Illusion
Date Posted: 22 Dec 22 at 9:23am
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Was not aware of these insane boats until my You Tube feed started showing me. Just where do you start? 12 feet long and you sit in it??? Steer with you feet??? Spinnaker but no pole, just use your hands??? Helm weights corrected to 100kg??? This is inspired madness, I love it.
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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 22 Dec 22 at 10:07am
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Something about levelling the playing field regarding weight, mobility and fitness holds merit in my eyes.
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Posted By: Dakota
Date Posted: 22 Dec 22 at 10:51am
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They are lovely little things , like miniature yachts. A friend of mine got one a couple of years ago , he has Parkinson’s so was finding dinghys a little difficult. He loves it as it means he can race on a even footing in this clubs racing .
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Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 22 Dec 22 at 1:07pm
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I saw them years ago on the Thames at Tamesis SC, looked great. I see there is a large fleet on the Isle of Wight but I imagine sailing them in the winter in solent chop you get every wave right in your face, not nice!
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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 23 Dec 22 at 8:09am
Remember racing in them on the Serpentine during the ISAF conference back in the day … lunch at the Royal Thames … very civilized
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Happily living in the past
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Posted By: Presuming Ed
Date Posted: 23 Dec 22 at 9:30pm
The front end of the Bembridge Illusion fleet is no pot hunters paradise. Graham Bailey, Mark Downer, Graham Sunderland etc. Probably the most competitive fleet in (/near) the Solent.
And of course, they were designed y Jo Richards.
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Posted By: Presuming Ed
Date Posted: 24 Dec 22 at 5:09pm
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“Sorry dear, can’t help with the present wrapping / potato peeling / kid wrangling. It’s Saturday. Got to go sailing! Yes, I know it’s Christmas Eve, but it’s still Saturday. Promise I won’t go to the bar. Much.”
https://youtu.be/ZErU3yqt090" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/ZErU3yqt090
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Posted By: The Q
Date Posted: 13 Jan 23 at 3:37pm
There is also the:
international 2.4mR, the world wide class used for Paralympics.
Deception,
Millimetre,
And several others. There was even a Minature J class yacht of which a few were built.
They were mostly a result of people wanting Minature 12Metre America's cup boat back in the 1980s.
I wanted something similar, but for the Norfolk Broads, with a little more length to improve speed so I designed and built a boat of 16 foot. It's now steered by a lever each side of the cockpit, so what ever hand is free can steer I didn't get on well with foot steering. The jib has a club and is self tacking.
On this video the first shot shows her with the blue hull moored up before sailing at the club. Note that jib is temporary, hacked from a Kestrel
jib.
https://youtu.be/dE7A5xRXwmI
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Still sailing in circles
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Posted By: The Q
Date Posted: 13 Jan 23 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by Presuming Ed
“Sorry dear, can’t help with the present wrapping / potato peeling / kid wrangling. It’s Saturday. Got to go sailing! Yes, I know it’s Christmas Eve, but it’s still Saturday.Promise I won’t go to the bar. Much.” https://youtu.be/ZErU3yqt090" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/ZErU3yqt090 |
We don't sail Christmas eve.
But do sail boxing day, and new years day, and every Sunday throughout the winter. https://www.sfsc.co.uk/ https://m.facebook.com/groups/534126070477495?group_view_referrer=search
This is at Horning Sailing club, where Horning SC including me, sail the rest of the year.
https://www.horning-sailing.club/
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Still sailing in circles
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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 15 Jan 23 at 3:58pm
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I was really quite taken by this https://epoxycraft.com/projects/flying-10-lovable-dinghy-prize-winning-finish/" rel="nofollow - https://epoxycraft.com/projects/flying-10-lovable-dinghy-prize-winning-finish/
Toyed with getting a K1 but unsure about the lifting dagger & bulb concept. If having a mini keelboat feel like it should have a "proper" keel.
Only my idea, other opinions are allowed.
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Posted By: Dakota
Date Posted: 16 Jan 23 at 3:18pm
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Love the look of the flying 10 but there is just too much wood for me, the K1 on the other hand… We have one at out club , looks and sails terrific. The system of raising the keel works well and launching and retrieving is easy as it’s surprising light. When I get too old for the D-zero it will be high up my list of possible next boats.
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Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 16 Jan 23 at 8:58pm
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An acquaintance of mine speaks very highly of his K1.
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Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 17 Jan 23 at 7:57am
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I sailed a K1 last year in light to medium winds (it was at Wimbleball so all this happened in one leg of the course). It was a joy to sail, picked up speed quickly considering the keel. Tacked slightly slower than a normal dinghy. Pointed well. The job gave you something extra to do downwind, goosewinging it prooving highly advantageous. A throughly nice boat to sail. Its only downside is the perception its on old persons boat. I don't see any reason why younger people shouldn't sail it, it benefits from hiking out, but of course once your energy runs out, or you don't have it in the first place then the keel takes over and you can still perform, maybe to 90%, whereas a traditional dinghy that would drop off to 60%. Whats not to like...other than the cost, but then all dinghies are expensive, new or used.
And to keep on topic. slightly less barking than an Illusion, which look amazing
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 21 Jan 23 at 7:30pm
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Stopped on my round IOW cycle to watch a lap and a half of the Illusion racing at Bembridge. Saw a lap and a half. Loads out and close competition from front to back.
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