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1 metre distancing = 2 person boats OK now?

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Topic: 1 metre distancing = 2 person boats OK now?
Posted By: ChrisI
Subject: 1 metre distancing = 2 person boats OK now?
Date Posted: 23 Jun 20 at 3:13pm
Keen to get back out there and with a 16ft boat I think we can manage the distancing....



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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 23 Jun 20 at 3:36pm
Upwind you sit a metre apart?

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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 23 Jun 20 at 7:38pm
I don’t think any two handed dinghy sailors are one meter plus apart however deeper in guidance they generally meet other criteria, they usually don’t face each other and there is plenty of ventilation. 

I think the one meter is about opening more opening business, upto clubs and individuals 


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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 6:30am
I think that this is now getting to the (Scary in some cases) point where you have to trust people to use common sense and to do the "right thing".

On that basis, actually there is no reason why two people cant sail a two man boat if they have no symptoms and have not been contacted by track and trace. Yes, there is a risk but it is small.

Not that I'm an expert but I'd probably want the daily infections/R number to be a bit less before we all started sailing two man boats, but if people use their intelligence I think we would be ok.

Will I be doing it? Not yet. Lets get something resembling "proper" racing first - that makes taking a small risk more worthwhile.


Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 8:25am
Common sense needs to be applied in my view. Walk out your door and it seems that the general public is already applying common sense in most cases so we should be able to do the same in our boats! In fact from what I have seen, people are already sailing two person boats as Paramedic says but they have decided to stay off social media for fear of a grilling from those that like a good rule.

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 9:01am
My company sticking with 2 metre rule, that will ensure 1 metre rule is maintained, amazing how many people think 1 metre is 2

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Posted By: tink
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 11:40am
I’d love to know the what the equivalent of one and two meters face to face vs both facing the same way. Think they should be emphasising the not face to face more than they are 

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Posted By: Cirrus
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 11:49am
It is a bit like the three boat lengths rule ...which can be rather 'flexible' with some !  Seriously though in a 2 person dinghy it is hardly possible not to be within a metre for much of the time...  and wishing things were different is not going to change anything.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 1:09pm
Judging by the large groups of good gathering on the far side of our lake, common sense is totally nonexistent.

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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 2:19pm
Originally posted by Rupert

Judging by the large groups of good gathering on the far side of our lake, common sense is totally nonexistent.

I said common sense "in most cases".....exactly for this reason


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Posted By: polc1410
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by H2

Common sense needs to be applied in my view. Walk out your door and it seems that the general public is already applying common sense in most cases so we should be able to do the same in our boats! In fact from what I have seen, people are already sailing two person boats as Paramedic says but they have decided to stay off social media for fear of a grilling from those that like a good rule.
But are they 2 people from the same household (perfectly fine) or from a bubble (also fine) or ignoring the "rules"

Interestingly the law stops > 6 people meeting (or racing)but doesn't actually stop 2 people being <2m, thats guidance.


Posted By: polc1410
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by tink

I’d love to know the what the equivalent of one and two meters face to face vs both facing the same way. Think they should be emphasising the not face to face more than they are 
In a dinghy context... with no mask on... you will to some extend be breathing onto the opposite deck/gunwale, and then swapping sides.  May be a chance you are sitting on the other person's droplets.  Then touching that, and dare I say at some point wiping spray from your face.  Don't think you will get data at that level.

The assumption of any model sitting side by side rather than opposite, would be that you don't then move to the next seat! 


Posted By: ChrisI
Date Posted: 24 Jun 20 at 9:21pm
What a joy.....
First time out on the water today since Feb and perfect conditions on the Thames in central London.
In fact we haven't needed to wait until any 1 metre rule comes in as we are in a 'bubble'.
Not a cloud in the sky, nor an aeroplane or contrail.....
Wonderful!


Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 14 Jul 20 at 4:13pm
I will fess up to sailing with my crew on Sunday.  We were at a much lower level of proximity than many people having BBQs on the shore; there were only the two of us in a quite large radius (lots of lake, few boats).  In fact the wind was so light we were sat on opposite sides of the boat with the sail acting as a screen between us for most of the time.  The Club says "it is up to members"  and frankly compared to the things I have to do at work it felt pretty safe .. or at least "a small marginal risk" to the rest of the world.


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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 14 Jul 20 at 5:57pm
Having walked past the play park today, where mums were sitting next to each other, teens were playing football or gathered in huddlestone, small kids running around together, sitting in a 2 person boat is at least a small gathering.

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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686


Posted By: Mozzy
Date Posted: 29 Jul 20 at 2:17pm
Guidance for mixed households. 

https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/230452/Crews-from-different-households-return-in-England" rel="nofollow - https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/230452/Crews-from-different-households-return-in-England



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