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Zzap skiff?Any idea what happened to it?

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Topic: Zzap skiff?Any idea what happened to it?
Posted By: mambo jumbo
Subject: Zzap skiff?Any idea what happened to it?
Date Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 12:29am

Anybody knows the existence of this boat?At 3.6m and asssymmetric with trap, it looks kinda like a cherub clone to me..

ZZAP Skiff




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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 3:34am
Smaller rig, aimed at much younger sailors. The url was www.zzapboat.com, but no longer exists and the domain expired last March. Think its nailed to its perch.


Posted By: Chris 249
Date Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 11:04am
And it never had much of a skiff in it, did it? Skiffs have big rigs, lots of righting moment, maybe some link to the classic skiff classes.......the Zap is just an assymetric dinghy like the good old JD.


Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 11:13am
Like a cherub but aimed at LIGHTER sailers? whats going on there then? 

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 18 Dec 05 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by Isis

Like a cherub but aimed at LIGHTER sailers? whats going
on there then? 


lighter as in childern I would think... more like the Flying Ant's e.t.c

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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 21 Dec 05 at 2:43pm
i think i remember one being on ebay a while ago if im correct

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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 21 Dec 05 at 5:31pm
We had a demonstration of them locally a few years back. They were being marketed at kids moving up from opi's into trapeze boats, like a stepping stone to the 29er. The problem was that a lot of the kids were more willing to go straight into the 29er or 420 and being highly skilled racing wise and having a lot of awareness, weren't finding the transition too hard. Remember at the time hearing that the boat was quite successful in Ireland, but didn't hear of them after that. Does anybody know what happened to the Nautivela Jet, or was it just produced as a prototype boat to compete for the Olympic place the 49er got?

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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 21 Dec 05 at 6:04pm

http://www.nautivela.com/vis/vis.htm - http://www.nautivela.com/vis/vis.htm #

single handed 49er!!! also the info on the jet can be seen on this site dennis



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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 21 Dec 05 at 6:16pm
Cheers Chris 

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Posted By: Chris 249
Date Posted: 21 Dec 05 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by 49erGBR735HSC

We had a demonstration of them locally a few years back. They were being marketed at kids moving up from opi's into trapeze boats, like a stepping stone to the 29er. The problem was that a lot of the kids were more willing to go straight into the 29er or 420 and being highly skilled racing wise and having a lot of awareness, weren't finding the transition too hard. Remember at the time hearing that the boat was quite successful in Ireland, but didn't hear of them after that. Does anybody know what happened to the Nautivela Jet, or was it just produced as a prototype boat to compete for the Olympic place the 49er got?


I still wonder whether it's good for the sport to hold kids in Optis until they are big enough and good enough to go straight into a 29er or 420. OK, they may be demon racers but aren't many of them bored to tears by the Opti by then? The Zzap DID seem a bit too close in size to the 29er/420 though. And as for calling it a skiff.........

Then again, if that's the way it's done in Britian it seems to work, you're undeniably the top dinghy country.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 21 Dec 05 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by Chris 249


I still wonder whether it's good for the sport to hold kids in Optis
until they are big enough and good enough to go straight into a 29er or
420...Then again, if that's the way it's done in Britian it seems to work, you're undeniably the top dinghy country.


Nothing universal about that Chris, depends on the clubs etc I think. But then we don't have Oppies at all (thank goodness -no oppie parents, ours start with Toppers a few years older. But they seem quite happy to take on 29ers straight from that at around 16 - in fact one of our U14s took my IC out last week (albeit in no wind)


Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 22 Dec 05 at 11:23am
Originally posted by Chris Noble

http://www.nautivela.com/vis/
vis.htm
- http://www.nautivela.com/vis/vis.htm #


single handed 49er!!! also the info on the jet can be seen on this site
dennis



Ahhh.... I raced against that in Carnac this summer. The locals called it a
VICE? Seem's quite a sweet ship from a distance.

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Posted By: Olly4088
Date Posted: 22 Dec 05 at 3:47pm
it looks like a 200 with a trapeze

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