Kick up rudder cleat
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Topic: Kick up rudder cleat
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Kick up rudder cleat
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 10:10pm
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It's a nightmare on the lake right now, the drought has meant water levels are unseasonally low, tonight I broke the rope holding the rudder down, now I seem to recall a cleat that might under extreme duress come open rather than have what happened tonight and the rope snap.
Is there such a device? ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 10:12pm
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Clamcleat CL257 ------------- Happily living in the past |
Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 10:15pm
| There is, I have one, came fitted by Milanes, not convinced how well it would work, meant to adjustable for break out tension but cannot confirm efficacy. |
Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 10:32pm
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Works ok on both my boats. I also have large wing nut on the rudder with I can tighten up if the downhaul breaks. ------------- Happily living in the past |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 10:32pm
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Works reasonably well to be honest. Obviously when new stiffer than when used a bit. It isn't going to prevent slight damage to the leading edge of the blade but it will stop the transom being ripped off. Worth getting one, not sure why they aren't standard to be honest ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 11:02pm
| Won't don't rudder blades 'snap' or click down like, say, pen lids? |
Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 10 May 17 at 11:17pm
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Some do, locked by a spring loaded mechanism in the tiller/stock. Lift the tiller and the lock disengages, any hard thump on the rudder blade should be enough to pop the locking mechanism. The one on my Spice broke and I modified it, it still works much the same but I can't really comment on how effective it is in protecting against accidental grounding as I haven't yet tested it in extremis. ------------- Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 11 May 17 at 9:48am
| Anyone else remember those red 'crayons' that used to go into 420 rudders in the late 80's / early 90's? They were pretty effective in use but a nightmare in the boat park at school sailing regattas where yours' invariably went "walk about" after the 1st or 2nd day if left in the boat over night |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 11 May 17 at 10:02am
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Thanks DavidYot, duly ordered, it screwed my race last night, got water called on the start line and forced over, so had to dip the line, then proceed to thump the wreck and about every sand spit on the lake chasing the increasingly Jammy Jack in the other Solution and just as I reeled him in the rope snapped it took me a couple of minutes and a leg of weather helm to think about tightening the screw on the downwind leg. I never did get him.. ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 11 May 17 at 11:18am
yep- I carried a stash of golf tees in my sailing bag back then.....
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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 11 May 17 at 2:52pm
Wish I'd thought of using tees. I bought a length of plastic rod from a modelling shop but it was cr4p - nowhere near tough enough. ------------- Nick D-Zero 316 |
Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 11 May 17 at 3:56pm
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On my Finn lifting rudder one previous owner had made or gotten a fibreglass rod. Slowly feel apart and all I had to hand was a wooden spoon so I whittled that down to fit. I really must get around to something a bit better ------------- Everything I say is my opinion, honest |
Posted By: andy h
Date Posted: 11 May 17 at 11:44pm
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Red "crayons" (shear pins) through the blade and stock are alive and well. I use them on both my Europe rudders and prefer them to the kick up clamcleat I have on the N12. I keep a spare in my BA but have never actually needed it. ------------- Europe AUS53 & FF 3615 National 12 3344, Europe 397 and Mirror 53962 all gone with regret |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 12 May 17 at 1:24am
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 12 May 17 at 1:25am
| ^ If only that used a magnet instead of the string... |
Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 13 May 17 at 5:28pm
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Got it, arrived in the post today, would love to recommend whoever it was I got it from but can't remember now. #teamdementia ------------- https://www.corekite.co.uk/snow-accessories-11-c.asp" rel="nofollow - Snow Equipment Deals https://www.corekite.co.uk" rel="nofollow - New Core Kite website |
Posted By: PeteM
Date Posted: 13 May 17 at 6:04pm
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Red plastic pins available from P&B website - a must for any pond sailor or anywhere with shallows. Used on 505 and Osprey - I have 2 pins on a very thin piece of rope, then if one goes - I can use the 2nd pin and still get home with the transom still nicely hanging on at the back of the boat!Yep - fixed rudders are all great, but on a pond - I don't think so!! ------------- Osprey Mk 5 1365 Peviously Sailed 4 x Fireball, 1 x RS500, 1 x 505 All nice boats |