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Trapeze handles for singlehanded hooking in?

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Topic: Trapeze handles for singlehanded hooking in?
Posted By: fartymark
Subject: Trapeze handles for singlehanded hooking in?
Date Posted: 12 Apr 16 at 3:23pm
Hi all,

At the moment I am designing some long handled trapeze rings, so that I can hook in (whilst hanging) with one hand.

Has anyone made any similar modifications or have any suggestions? 

Thanks



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Posted By: PeterG
Date Posted: 12 Apr 16 at 3:40pm
You want tacking sticks. Some Contenders use them
http://contenderclass.wordpress.com/tag/tacking-sticks/" rel="nofollow - http://contenderclass.wordpress.com/tag/tacking-sticks/

There are instructions somewhere on the class website. I've never tried them, a friend who is a fair bit better Contender sailor than I am used them for one summer a few years back, and gave up after ending up in the water while the boat sailed on too many times! However, in the hands of those who make them work they work well.


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Peter
Ex Cont 707
Ex Laser 189635
DY 59


Posted By: scarface
Date Posted: 12 Apr 16 at 6:00pm

I recommend making up some prototypes using plastic plumbing tube (or similar) available from Wickes, B&Q etc. If you buy a drill capable of making a hole of the same outside diameter as the tube you can easily modify some plastic disc handles to slide over the top and provide a handhold. Rope down the middle takes the load, use your existing hooks and the whole lot costs approx £5-£10 plus drill, plastic handles, tape and rope.  You can then experiment with lengths and arrangements.  I kept a normal trapeze adjuster above the handle, but have seen alternative approaches turning the system upside-down and using kite-surfing clam cleats. Once made you can experiment by tying them up to some suitably high point (a tree, building, even a stairwell) then you can practice hanging off one arm and hooking on/off.

People have made beautiful custom carbon tacking sticks, but I never thought there was an appreciable performance benefit over simple plastic tube (less brittle too).  I recommend the Blue Peter approach before you commit to spending serious spondooleys.

I found them great for speeding up gybes (in a Musto Skiff) and allowed a slight increase in speed in tacking, but then I never felt comfortable with leaving the mainsheet cleated and committing to a full wire-to-wire tack (note: I tried them,  but reckoned 9 out of 10 was not good enough.  I think even a 5% failure rate will make it not worth it in terms of race results).  In summary if I went back to Mustos I would definitely build another set of tacking sticks.



Posted By: Do Different
Date Posted: 12 Apr 16 at 6:03pm
http://www.c2marine.co.uk/trapeze_handle.php

Ready made for your interest.

My mate made them work on a Contender, mind you he's a determined little devil and very willing to swim to win eventually. How much faster than a smooth operator using old school..................? 

BTW. Their tiller extensions are the mutts nuts, exactly the right level of grip all the way down the shaft with no need to customise. I have them on both boats. 


Posted By: piglet
Date Posted: 14 Apr 16 at 4:13pm
I had a go with them but gave it up, any small advantage over getting good at hoking on first was overshadowed by the irritaion of these things clanging around you ears all the time, and it made difficult to clip the elastics forward in the light stuff.


Posted By: fartymark
Date Posted: 16 Apr 16 at 6:10pm


Thanks for all your advice. I have made some cheap early versions to try out this weekend :) hopefully they will speed up my tacking!



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