Lost boats....
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Topic: Lost boats....
Posted By: les5269
Subject: Lost boats....
Date Posted: 22 Nov 05 at 7:32pm
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Know this has probably been done but......... just wondering if anyones seen my old boats? Laser 4000 4050 (4gone conclusion) Laser 4000 4307 (Big Bird) Contender 426 (Nemesis) Anyone else got a boat they wonder what happened to? ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
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Posted By: bigwavedave
Date Posted: 22 Nov 05 at 7:54pm
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Firefly 2019. Learned to sail in it 30 odd years ago. Can't remember who it was sold to but would love to trace it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 22 Nov 05 at 7:59pm
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As far as I know, it hasn't been done as a thread on this forum and it's a very good idea. I think this there will be many questions unanswered, though... If Scoob ever wondered where his old Topper was, now he knows! In lancing SC!
Hmmm. I wonder where Contender 443 might be by now......... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC 
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Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 22 Nov 05 at 8:23pm
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BnS that was a Very Very Very Very old Topper as in 27 years ago (I think...)... I've had 2 Windsurfers, 1 Dart 18 (for 10 years - poor school kid and then student), 2 Hurricanes , a Dart 15 and an Inter 17 since that wee Topper...... That topper has been Been flying you know...... My sister went wave jumping outside Brightlingsea in/on it.... Good old boat that one.......    ------------- Wanna learn to Ski - PM me.. |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 12:17am
| Anybody seen Scorpion 625 and 1695? |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 11:42am
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Well as it happens I think I sold 625 for someone last year...... It is now somewhere around Redhill I think |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 11:59am
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i work at aquasports which is in redhill next time i am down there i will have a look in the boat park for it!! what colour is it???  ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 12:14pm
| Um red if I remember rightly |
Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 12:52pm
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ok cool i will have a look next time i go down there!! ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 2:31pm
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Anyone seen Laser 2 GBR 8471 aka Squonk (I didn't name her)? Was my first boat and loved her to bits. Got a funny feeling that my other boat Laser 5000 GBR 5071 may be at Dalgety Bay, anyone know any different? ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 8:16pm
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I forgot one Otter 216 (tarka) what i learnt to sail in! ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 10:17pm
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Carshalton and Pierre, you don't realise what a coincidence this is since I don't live far from Redhill. I sold Scorpion 625 to Mike Lennon (now of International 14s and Hyde Sails) when he was a nipper and he sailed on Lake Coniston. I'd love to know more of her history - how long did you have her Pierre and did she still go very well to windward with a Proctor D (or was it C) mast? She was an impressive boat to windward, out pointing or out footing most other Scorpions. The great thing was you could do either, foot or point. I have to admit she was not good off the wind. I painted her in red two pot epoxy. |
Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:00am
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A puddle for sailing near Redhill????? I worked there (theoretically atleast) for 6 years and the nearest puddles worth talking about were Bough Beech and Weirwood - where else is there? Anyhow, the list of used and abused boats gets longer: Laser 125501...used to belong to Richard Tew and sailed at Bewl Valley, I had it down at Rye Harbour for about 4 years and then sold it to get Contender 358 - a beige Rondar hull with a cracked spaceframe, and then Tasar 1297...a lovely orange Rondar job - sailed briefly at Queen Mary and then sold to finance an engine rebuild on a yellow lotus... Can't remember the Sorpion's sail number though (13??.....) |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:39am
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You're talking vast expanses of water, there, Blobby.... We're talking Mercers Park. Yeah, it's a puddle, yeah it's near Redhill. Go there weekends and school hols and you can admire Carshalton's teaching style ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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!Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 8:16am
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Strewth - I thought only the local sea cadets were made to suffer that fate...you mean people do it out of choice as well??? |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 8:36am
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It looked like it when I went there... Most were overexuberant schoolchildren whose parents had found a satisfying way to override corporal punishment by immersing them weekly in near-freezing water. The clubhouse was invaded at regular intervals by groups of Smurfs (small blue creatures) clamouring for a hot chocolate. Once restored to a healthy pink, parents would gently encourage their offspring to enjoy the thrills of watersports by finding the right words : "YOU go back on the water NOW, Mister! I've paid for that course, you will finish it!" Aaawwww, bless 'em. I won't say anything about a party of adults, some of them canoeing for the first time as a birthday treat! You should have seen the face of one guy emerging from the changing rooms, sausaged up in a borrowed wetsuit ! Yes people do sail there. It's actually a great place to learn to tack; when Elodie sailed there, I pointed out that, if she didn't change course in time, she'd land in the trees where irate fishermen express vehemently their dislike for the rest of the world. That proved to be a great incentive and she thoroughly enjoyed the sail. One more thing: Carshalton, before you come here all
Phew! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 9:11am
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And only 1/2 an hour away from somewhere decent to sail... just like Redhill is only 1/2 an hour away from a decent place to live... |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 9:35am
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Half an hour from Mercers Park, to get to Lancing?!?! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 9:45am
Hi Redback I'm in East Grinstead (not far from the Hosptial), and a friend up the road had a domestic parting of the ways. She was left with the Scorpion in the garage and a 5o5 at her parents to get rid of. The Scorpion was sound as a pound. Still red on the outside but stripped back to wood on the inside. It needed finishing off. It had been sailed occaisionally at WeirWood for the previous couple of years and I'd had a go in it. Nice boat. I took care of getting the boats sold for her. The Scorp went about 14 months ago. Saw the guys who had bought it a few months later and it was restored to its former glory. Cheers P |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 9:46am
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha AHA |
Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 10:00am
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Life's full of strange coincidences. I used to live in Redhill and sailed at Mercers Park - Ent then Osprey 940, then a Scorpion. Even sailed FD GBR300 there once or twice - that sharpened up the boat handling! The rech across the pond took about 15 seconds with the kite up! I thought the sailing club there had died? Neil |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 10:25am
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It's quite a charming little place, and quite active too !
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 10:29am
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Sorry, I don't remember seeing all those trees down at Lancing recently............ |
Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 10:33am
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Water level pretty low! Don't remember the island having that much beach! Is the winch still working, or do you have to haul boats up by hand these days. Happy memories of sailing three races in F5-6, then having to drag boats up the steepest ramp in the cosmos. Didn't help that there was a Scorp (owned by a guy called Mike, I think) that always ended up full of water, and he couldn't be bothered to drain it. Lovely spot in the summer, though. Neil |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 10:34am
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That's a reply to NeilP, and photos taken while travelling up North! Fewer trees in Lancing these days.
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 11:11am
Heavens above ..... global warming and the rise in sea levels cetrtainly has hit the southcoast. That was all deciduous forest earlier in the year. No wonder you have such great sailing at Lancing |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 11:35am
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That was before I needed a bit of wood to fix the Miracle... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 11:50am
Teeeheeee  ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 12:57pm
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ahh wicked yer aquasports is really nice not that i am bias!! bns have u got any photo's of me teaching by anychance??
neil p i know what u mean boat how small it is we were bored in the office once and started timeing people accross the lake and the record in a nice f4 was 5seconds done by a windsrufer but the kid that was on it weighed about 6stone and he had a 7.5metre sail
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 1:10pm
 And you could hear him scream "MUMMY!" from one end of the pond to the other! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 1:15pm
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what me teaching or the kid windsurfing??? ------------- International 14 1503 |
Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 1:23pm
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Any one seen; Mirror 59100 Rick
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 1:31pm
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Rick ! You've had more boats than I had hot meals! Impressive graveyard, really. Your entire sailing career to date is summed up in that list. What next... ? Full blast into mid-life crisis, or getting more sedate? Suggestions welcome... ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 1:57pm
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There are probably a couple of boats missing from that list ... I can't really think of a boat I'd rather have than the Musto ... and I hope to be fit enough to sail that for many more years to come ... Rick ------------- |
Posted By: big man is back
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 2:47pm
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Scooby i dont think you understand this is why we have student loans to waste it on boats and sails. didnt your mother teach you anything lol ------------- maybe theres more to life than being really really really really..........really good looking |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 4:49pm
To be honest, we are up to degree standard now, and I may embarrass us all |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:35pm
It's such a small world I went to school just outside Redhill only sailing I got to do was on the smallest "lake" on the grounds ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:43pm
Just as an aside, I fully expect to see a picture of Mr & Mrs Contender of Lancing Sailing Club in their best frocks, infront of their boats, on this website, first thing Monday morning. 
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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:50pm
... their best frocks, in front of their boats.... That's going to take a bit of Photoshop editing to do...  The party's in a hotel in Worthing, while our boats are at the end of a lane in Lancing.. But there might be a 2-part image, who knows ! ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:55pm
Well we will all be looking forward to it immensely BNS so don't let me down. As you are head girl around here, we expect nothing but your best efforts.
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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 10:01pm
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Thought I'd just bring it back to the top.Lots of lost boats ,not many found ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: Bogg Inne
Date Posted: 28 Nov 05 at 11:25am
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talkin of lost boats ----- true story.
I know of a club who suffered the loss of a pico - it had been used as a wheelbarrow to cart away the rescue boats fuel tanks in mid of night - (best use i can think of a pico Anyway , theft was reported to ra polis who duly noted in book of stolen stuff and forgot aboot it .
6 months later (or so) Club rec,d a call from local Laser agent (who had been informed of theft) that someone local to us was looking for everything for a pico other than hull and trolley ! , Turned out that a dutyful local had found the pico a few miles from the sailing club , reported it to ra Polis the same morning and was advised to take it home and if no one claims it you can keep it !!! after x months , dutyful local then trailed boat past Sailing Club to his home and did as requested !!, guess the Lost and found books in ra polis nerve centres r kept in different rooms
Who,s the loser you may ask ? you and I payers of insurance policies !!!! who ultimately pay for this none sense .
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Posted By: Matt Jackson
Date Posted: 28 Nov 05 at 1:09pm
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My sailing 'history':-
Topper (Topolino) 14071 Hornet (Soaces One Design) 603 - MIA Contender (Wet Dream) 353 Hornet (Oh Vienna) 2095 Tasar 1229 RS400 415 Contender (Jilted) 506
We sold Hornet 2095 in Herne Bay, Kent 15 years ago and it's just shown up at my new club in North Yorkshire! Looks identical down to the paint and trapeze hook scratches - I'd buy it back tomorrow! ------------- Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36 |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 28 Nov 05 at 6:49pm
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Boats...
Gull 1786. This one was stolen, never surfaced. Think this may have been the last homebuilt Gull. 1788 got offered for sale in Y&Y a few years later, couldn't be bothered to find out whether this was actually our boat "renumbered" which seemed possible as they did a jump to 1800 for a new plastic model and I don't think 1787-1799 were ever issued. [1788 (or a 1788!) recently surfaced on ebay with a good photo of the number on the transom and its pretty clear that it wasn't our boat with the number altered) First Cherub converted to a rowing boat and left when I moved house. Don't recall sail number Second Cherub. Never had a sail number, poorly built hull I bought for 25quid, terminal damage after 3 years fun sailing and a very bad Solent slop. Viking Funeral. Third Cherub. KZ1982. Still have it. Waiting on a major restoration. Fourth Cherub. 2641. Sold to France. Subsequently had all gear removed and may be lost Gull 63. Yes Sixty Three. Actually for the girlfriend. Sold on. Eleven Plus 53, forget the sail number, bought for nostalgia as they're pretty much what I learned to race in. In the garage. PlusPlus 001. Sold On IC K257. Current boat. Int Moth 3517. Bought as a temporary boat when I was unable to sail the IC for a while. Started life as a Skol Mk3 in glassfibre, but it turned out it had a new *wooden* bottom below the waterline, which had rotted and needs replacing. I'm obviously not much good at selling boats! |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 28 Nov 05 at 7:35pm
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But Jim have you "lost" any boats? ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 29 Nov 05 at 8:59am
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Hmmm, maybe... at the back of the garage?!? JimC, do you know exactly how big is your garage, then? Or are the boats stacked up neatly, like Russian dolls? (Wayfarer at the bottom all the way up to the Oppie at the top ------------- http://www.lancingsc.org.uk/index.html - Lancing SC
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Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 29 Nov 05 at 10:01am
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Have seen your old 800 rick, now sailed out of Deal SC/ Warwick Uni, but know the owner now has a rs200, not sure if hes sold the 8. OK, anyone seen: Topper 20525, 43328 , 44847, 45106 Laser 151118 420 51048, 51428 Think I know whereabouts of 2 of the boats topper 43328 and 420 51428 |
Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 29 Nov 05 at 5:43pm
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i know a certain famous cat sailor that actually forgot he had a boat it was in one of his barns and wen someone rang up to borrow it he was like oh yea i forgot i had that yea sure he had won the nationals in it 3 years previously!!! before moving class! ------------- lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 30 Nov 05 at 10:59am
Nathan, I am pretty sure Laser 151118 sails at Hunts these days. Was it a blue hulled vintage? Either that or someone has one of your old sails maybe.... Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 29 Jan 06 at 9:26pm
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Ha ha!!! Just found my long lost Tasar in the pages of Y&Y! It is in the photo of the Bloody Mary on page 65 - glad to see it is still going strong and that somebody loves it enough to buy a new suit of sails....
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 30 Jan 06 at 3:13pm
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Was flicking through some racing results the other day and saw my old Laser 150600 in there (now at Bough Beach) Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 11 Mar 06 at 7:44pm
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So did any more of these lost boats turn up? ------------- 49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)! http://www.grafham.org/" rel="nofollow - Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
Posted By: allanorton
Date Posted: 12 Mar 06 at 8:27am
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anyone seen laser 151257? ------------- |
Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 13 Mar 06 at 11:45am
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I went to see an OK a few weeks ago: the guy'd put it in the garage 15 years ago, then piled a load of crap on it. Don't know why he suddenly decided to sell it, but it was so long since he opened the door, it broke when he tried to open it. I just managed to squeeze into the garage and see about half the boat under all the rubbish, but there was no way we could get it out, so I had to leave it! Shame, it was almost a bargain... ------------- |
Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 12 Apr 08 at 5:45pm
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Anyone know the whereabouts of Cadet 3880- last seen on the Thames in the early 90s? May have had Viking funeral since... |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 12 Apr 08 at 8:13pm
| I bought my phantom - K88 - from a guy in Weston-super-Mud who thought it was a contender. It came from Axbridge/Bristol Corinthians. I would be really keen to trace previous owners because it does seem to be one of the oldest phantoms around - built in the early 70s. |
Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 12 Apr 08 at 8:14pm
| I sailed it today, by the way; it is a really lovely boat. |