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Topic: Laser Stratos Sails
Posted By: provenjohn
Subject: Laser Stratos Sails
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 10:38am

Hi

Can anyone suggest where I can get a main & jib for a Stratos without paying Laser prices!   Even good S/H would be OK, only for the family to sail.

Thanks




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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 10:52am
u could try and get a sail maker to do them.  but the stratos's sails will last for around 5-6years.  the only thing that will wear out quickly is the spinniker. 

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Posted By: provenjohn
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 11:32am

Hi

Thanks, yes did wonder about getting set made, any suggestions who by?

Sails on this Stratos are 4 years old & both main & jib are splitting!!

 

 



Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 11:34am

Id have a hunt around and see if you can find a class association website and ask on there. Chances are someone will have a second hand set lying around.

The other option would be to ask if anyone makes training sails. It is unlikely in a boat like the stratos but if they are available they will be cheeper (but probibly worse quality) than the laser items. For cruising with the family this will be fine but like carshalton's suggestion they will not be legal for racing with.

 



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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by Isis

Id have a hunt around and see if you can find a class association website and ask on there. Chances are someone will have a second hand set lying around.

The other option would be to ask if anyone makes training sails. It is unlikely in a boat like the stratos but if they are available they will be cheeper (but probibly worse quality) than the laser items. For cruising with the family this will be fine but like carshalton's suggestion they will not be legal for racing with.

 



I would disagree with the training sails being worse quality. Any Laser 1 sailor will tell you a 'training' sail is made of far better cloth than an official class sail!

You pays your money you takes your choice......

And don't forget there are lots of lofts out there who can make laminate sails there days.....or even get a set made from Dacron if it is only for cruising!

Just my 2p.....


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Posted By: yellowhammer
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 1:33pm

is it a mylar main and dacron jib? if a mylar main then it might be worth repairing ... where's the split in the main, has the mast track caused it?

one of our members had a set of practice sails made by Dolphin Sails which were good value ... just send your originals as a pattern

http://www.dolphinsails.com/index.htm - http://www.dolphinsails.com/index.htm



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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by Isis

The other option would be to ask if anyone makes training sails. It is unlikely in a boat like the stratos but if they are available they will be cheeper (but probibly worse quality) than the laser items. For cruising with the family this will be fine but like carshalton's suggestion they will not be legal for racing with.



Is the Class used in Sailing Schools? I'm pretty sure my regular Sailmaker, Caws on the IOW, have in the past worked with sailing schools to produce sails with a far longer life than standard ones, and I believe cheaper too. So if there's a school that uses them finding out what they do could be useful. I would hesitate to associate the cheaper prce of "Training sails" with reduced quality, there are other factors in play, nmost notably that most SMOD manufacturers have high spares prices to subsidise new boat prices.


Posted By: yellowhammer
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 4:58pm

Originally posted by JimC

there are other factors in play, nmost notably that most SMOD manufacturers have high spares prices to subsidise new boat prices.

not sure the new boat prices are subsidised ... i think it's their 'hype' generating marketing machine that you're paying for



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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 5:57pm

the sailing school i work at uses dolphin sails in harwich for there stratos!

dolphin sails are very good we use them on the hurricane!



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Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 6:19pm
Try Andrew from Red Eye Sails and tell him I sent you!  He does one-offs, just ask the Cherub fleet...

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 11 Nov 05 at 6:36pm
^could well be a good idea but as im sure the people on the cherub mailing list will have noticed by now, Andrew is away untill the 18th, is away untill the 18th, is away untill the 18th, is away untill the 18th

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Posted By: NickA
Date Posted: 12 Nov 05 at 5:57pm

Try Banks and Trident - they both do "training" sails.  And so long as no-one notices, you can race them too - and at club level, who's looking!

 



Posted By: provenjohn
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 8:49am

Thanks for all the replies



Posted By: Bogg Inne
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 11:55am

Laser Stratos Gennaker on Ebay going cheap and Brand New -Class Legal an all

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7199045631&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:UK:44 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=719 9045631&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:UK:44

 

If had a Stratos it s a no brainer.

 

 



Posted By: Bogg Inne
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by hurricane

the sailing school i work at uses dolphin sails in harwich for there stratos!

dolphin sails are very good we use them on the hurricane!

and Dolphin based in Harwich .

You are the first 5.9 sailer I've ever heard praise the standard 5.9 Jib !!!!, shape is Cr*P from new and openely recognised by the class , but they are all the same !, perhaps not Dolphins design and too be fair you get fed up looking at them before its bin time .

 

They used to make shockin mirror sails when I was a nipper - giving my age away !!! Swore never to sail with one, magine my horror when sailing 5.9's I had nooo choice .until sported up and used cool Tornado Jibs then sxed up for a cool Hyde .

 

 



Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 8:00pm
Originally posted by Bogg Inne

Originally posted by hurricane

the sailing school i work at uses dolphin sails in harwich for there stratos!

dolphin sails are very good we use them on the hurricane!

and Dolphin based in Harwich .

You are the first 5.9 sailer I've ever heard praise the standard 5.9 Jib !!!!, shape is Cr*P from new and openely recognised by the class , but they are all the same !, perhaps not Dolphins design and too be fair you get fed up looking at them before its bin time .

 

They used to make shockin mirror sails when I was a nipper - giving my age away !!! Swore never to sail with one, magine my horror when sailing 5.9's I had nooo choice .until sported up and used cool Tornado Jibs then sxed up for a cool Hyde .

i did not say it was a high tech sail i meant it was good in terms of durabilty!!

anyway the jib isnt that bad they have tried new shapes but because its a one design its no real disadvantage!!

i have an sx to play with now anyway so doesnt really matter!

 



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lifes to short to sail slow boats!

RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007


Posted By: Bogg Inne
Date Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 3:53pm

 

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i did not say it was a high tech sail i meant it was good in terms of durabilty!!

so did I in a roundabout way !!!

"perhaps not Dolphins design and too be fair you get fed up looking at them before its bin time ".

I don't think sx jib will be so durable , but better shape and whole sx thang a blast , have fun !

Did you steal the new gennaker on e bay Provenjohn was a crackin bargin

 

oops still got 3 days !, cheap as chips still

 



Posted By: Redeye Sails
Date Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 5:02pm

Jon

 

I would be happy to make new sails to the same spec as laser supplied sails for around 66% of the price of new. Have done L2000 sails and have received excellent feedback

If you are interested give me a call details are on my website at http://www.redeyesails.co.uk - www.redeyesails.co.uk

Regards

Andrew Elliott

 




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