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Magno - the right choce?

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Topic: Magno - the right choce?
Posted By: AlanG
Subject: Magno - the right choce?
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 9:16pm

Hello

First post from a newbie - new to the forum and sailing (just passed my RYA Level 2)

I've been looking for a boat which will generally be sailed by one adult and two children with the occasional solo venture. I live about 200 metres from a public slipway and would hope to trail the boat without the need for a car. 

The Magno seems to be quiet suitable (roomy, stable, low maintenance) but I wonder if it is the right choice as a 'first' boat.

Any comments would be appreciated..... 

   




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Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 9:18pm
Enterprise, GP14? Firefly might be a bit of a squash. Mirror? Nice singlehanded. but then I'm biased.

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Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 9:46pm
it all goes back to the questions of do u want a assy or conventional spinni, trap, blah, blah blah. if just passed level 2 and looking for family, racing boat, i would recommend the laser 2000 or rs vareo.

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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 7:21am

How big are the children?

I might be inclined to buy something older and cheaper until you are more certain what kind of sailing you want to do.



Posted By: AlanG
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 2:57pm

Thanks for the response so far.

I certainly would prefer the 'older, cheaper' option but there are a couple of restrictions...

The boat would be parked on the driveway and this limits the size to around 4 metres which makes it a bit tight for the GP14. I am also concerned about the weight factor when pulling the dinghy up the slipway (can you easily haul an Enterprise single-handed?).

With my limited sailing experience (Wayfarers and Topaz) I find the the furling jib, gnav,  and weight of the Magno quite attractive but perhaps this is being short-sighted. I have visited the local yacht club but they are racing orientated which is not what I'm currently looking for.

I look forward to further comments but in the meantime I think it's off to the river for some more practice.  

 



Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 3:43pm

Originally posted by AlanG

 (can you easily haul an Enterprise single-handed?).

Depends on how strong you are. Personally, I'd find it possible but hard work.

You didn't answer the question on how big your children are. If teenagers, 3 people in a 14 foot boat can be pretty crowded. 



Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 4:50pm
dotn touch the magno it is a distgusting boat!!   go for a 2000 or an eterprise they would be your best bet!!  or an rs vision they are good if your kids arnt that big!!  happy sailing

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Posted By: sw67
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 5:33pm
When i passed my level 2 a few years back i was looking to buy a boat for
family use. I picked the magno and have sailed it for a couple of seasons
now. Its stable , easy to rig and very low maintenance ( ie none ). I sail it
with the wife and 2 kids aged 8 and 10.
i have had laser 2000 , rs 200 and 800 sailors out with me and not had
any negative comments so far. Plastic is the future for most family
dinghies as far as i am concerned but there is a bit of snobbery about
fibreglass

stephen


Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 5:38pm
na i  dont have a problem with plastic boats but i hated that boat the handeling is not that respoinsive! and there are better boats out there!!

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Posted By: sw67
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 6:08pm
When i ordered my magno i had to do so on spec after reading the
reviews in a few magazines. I find the magno very responsive and so did
the instructors i was sailing with. I realize that if i sailed a "good" dinghy i
might not like the magno as much.

If it was that bad the reviews would have been rubbish

It was £3500 new inc road trailer , cover and is the sport version so was
about half the price of the other dinghy i was looking at ( laser 2000 )

It does what i wanted it for very well - family sailing with some racing

Stephen


Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 6:31pm

Originally posted by sw67

If it was that bad the reviews would have been rubbish

It's obviously just a  spooky coincidence, but major advertisers don't seem to get bad reviews.

 



Posted By: sw67
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 6:49pm
Its all about whats right for you but after 2 full seasons i still think i made
the right choice. I would have gone for the laser 2000 but did not want to
spend an extra £3500 when the wife and kids had never been in a dinghy.

I have gave my opinion based on a few seasons use and all the original
poster can do is take on board all the views and act on them - he may
hate it

stephen


Posted By: AlanG
Date Posted: 07 Oct 05 at 9:36am

In response to Stefan, the children are aged 7 and 10 - the 10 year old has RYA level 2 and is very confident on small single handers.

Next step for me is to visit all the local yacht clubs and see if they have any of the suggested boats in their fleets. Thanks for all the comments which have given me lots to think about (too much choice!!!)

 

 

 



Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 7:20pm
I've sailed a Magno once - it's not what I would choose to buy but the one I took out didn't have any particular vices and I was surprised how easily it picked up speed once the kite was up in very light winds.

On the Enterprise weight, if you fit a jockey wheel it should be easily managable unless you have a steep slip or have to drag it across a beach.

Hope that helps (BTW 2000s invert very quickly, not a vice I would want in a beginner boat (but otehrwise are excellent) - so if you do go for one of them use a masthead float).

And finally... reviews need to be fair and objective, not something that you can gaurantee on this forum

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Lark 2252, Contender 298

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 8:13pm
I can confirm that 2000s invert pretty quickly, much quicker than id expect from a boat like that.

A combined weight of about 21 stone didnt have any trouble at all righting it though so it shouldnt be a major setback for anyone considering the boat


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