Spice JIB
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Topic: Spice JIB
Posted By: ssailor
Subject: Spice JIB
Date Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 10:48pm
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Does anyone know what size the spice jib is (m2)? cheers stef ------------- Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices! Int 14 Gbr 1244 'Nucking Futs' The New Port rule!!. |
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Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 04 Oct 05 at 9:47pm
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i can only find an overall sail area excl. spinni. sorry bout that ------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 12:48am
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not enough m2 ------------- RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed" Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 2:08pm
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i dont think it was all that different from the buzz, it was just a reshaped main and bigger kite that distinguished them both. ------------- http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=561 - Competitive Boat Insurance From Noble Marine FOR SALE: I14 2 Masts 2 poles 3 Booms, Foils Kites/Mains/Jibs too many to list. |
Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 2:26pm
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I measured a Spice main last year because I wanted to use them on my Cherub, but ditched that idea due to them being a sh*t shape, and 14's having much nicer sails which are much more "cut-downable". I can't remember what it came out as exactly, PC has the piece of paper. But it should be somewhere around the 4m2 mark. ------------- Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry |
Posted By: ssailor
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 3:51pm
cheers guys, how did you measure the main? there a guy with one at my
club ill try n measure his - im thinking spice jib with slight
adjustments = cheap 14 jib! (brand new kevlar mix spice job by sobstad
is a hell of a lot cheaper than a brand 14 one!
------------- Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices! Int 14 Gbr 1244 'Nucking Futs' The New Port rule!!. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 8:14pm
The most accurate way of measuring sail area is probably the ISAF method. Its available in the Tech Support section of the Cherub website. As for saving money, I suspect you'd be better off with a used 14 jib than a new Spice one. Area wise I understood that a Spice was pretty much a Buzz hull with an Iso rig, but that's just rumour. |
Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 8:25pm
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I'm pretty sure my 14 jib is significantly bigger than my mates spice jib, my 14 is 13 years old though. The 'new' boats seem to have smaller jibs than mine. The spice is a wierd boat. It has quite a big jib compared with the main but no where near enough sail area. You can often be easily twin wiring downwind and then be marginally single wiring upwind. Despite what people say about it it's great to learn to helm from the wire on it and it's a fun boat to sail, just not enough sail area and far too heavy. With the spin up the bow comes miles out of the water compared to other boats which is strange the first time you sail it. |
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 10:34pm
So what you're saying is that the Spice would be a wonderful boat if only it had a different rig and different hull? All I can say to that is "Have a really good look at the foils and you might change your mind..." [grin] |
Posted By: ssailor
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 9:43am
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The spice i used to race had a brand new set of sails on it, and with the right
settings it was quite easy to twin upwind. The new 14 sails are smaller because we use self tackers and thus the jib cannot overlap the mast, so you sacrifice a tiny amount of sail area on the jib and add it to the main with the fat head mains  ------------- Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices! Int 14 Gbr 1244 'Nucking Futs' The New Port rule!!. |
Posted By: Strawberry
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 11:47am
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You would definately do better buying a second hand 14 jib. I can see loads
on the 14 website, varying in price/condition/size from £25 to £160. ------------- Cherub 2649 "Dangerous Strawberry |
Posted By: m_liddell
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 12:33pm
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No doubt it is a crappy boat but it is still quite fun to sail. |