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Topic: National/international classes
Posted By: MikeBz
Subject: National/international classes
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 2:20pm

I often tend to think that we're a bit 'different' from other sailboat racing nations in that we have a proliferation of classes which simply don't exist outside our shores.  Wrong.  The US equivalent of the Endeavour trophy, their "Champion of champions" event for one-design classes, has accepted invitations from the following classes:

Blue Jay
Butterfly
Catalina 22
Coronado 15
Force Five
Geary 18
Highlander
Interlake
Lido 14
Mutineer 15
Narrasketuck
Optimist
Prodigy
Sabot
San Juan 21
Sunfish
Tanzer 16
Thistle
Y-Flyer

I guess the difference is that our proliferation is being added to at an ever-increasing rate by the ongoing Laser/Topper/RS wars, whilst the above are mostly long-established (and possibly weird-and-wonderful specific-to-one-location) classes.




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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 2:56pm

If you spend any time in the USA and watch or read their media, you will find they have little knowledge of or interest in what goes on elsewhere. Given that they live in a huge and wealthy country, it's understandable, if a little distressing for a superpower.

But going back to sailing, is the Laser really not on the list? There wasn't a single USA boat in the Gold Fleet in the recent Laser Worlds.



Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 3:14pm
That strikes me as slightly pathetic actually, yet bringing up that age old quote now that no other nation excells as we do at our sport... however if invading or burger eating / supersizing were catagories in the next olympics.....

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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 3:35pm

Strictly speaking, I don't think the USA has declared war on anyone since 1941.



Posted By: Geordie_RS
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 3:43pm
Having spent a year living in the USA, and giving up on finding anywhere between NYC and Washington to actually get afloat on anything with a sail, I am surprised that there are that many different classes! I wonder if any of them are sailed outside the US (apart from the obvious Oppy) I bet they all have a 'World's', a bit like the World Series Baseball! 


Posted By: TonyL
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 3:59pm
I spent a few months instructing in the US back in the 80's, and yes they sailed some really weird and wonderful boats. But don't forget the sheer size of the place perhaps does tend towards making sailers a bit parochial.

Still, amazing that there weren't any USA entrants to the Laser worlds.


Posted By: Geordie_RS
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 4:02pm
When I did the Laser Radial worlds in 2002 there was only 1 American, and even I beat him. It was in Barcelona, most American's probably think that's a suburb of London!


Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 4:09pm

Originally posted by TonyL

Still, amazing that there weren't any USA entrants to the Laser worlds.

There were but none qualified for the Gold fleet.  



Posted By: fizzicist
Date Posted: 01 Oct 05 at 7:20pm
Speaking of the US, its looking like I'll be sent to Chicago for a short while on secondment - obviously I can't take my 300 with me; does anyone know of any decent American singlehanders and places to sail around there?

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Posted By: Phat Bouy
Date Posted: 01 Oct 05 at 9:25pm
Geordie_RS wrote:
I bet they all have a 'World's', a bit like the World Series Baseball!


What you need to know here is the "The World" was a newspaper that sponsored it's own series, hence "The World Series". 



Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 02 Oct 05 at 8:04am

Originally posted by fizzicist

looking like I'll be sent to Chicago for a short while on secondment

If it is a short secondment, it might be easier to get onto a bigger boat as a crew. There seems to be plenty of bigger boats racing on the Great Lakes. Just a thought. 




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