oldest boats
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Topic: oldest boats
Posted By: sam knight
Subject: oldest boats
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 8:16pm
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Was on the topper website the other day and they've got a descusion on the oldest topper. I've a 26yr old boat that i manage to race at national events, but can anyone beat that? ------------- Topper 43749 |
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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 8:18pm
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I occasionaly crew in a Fireball that is circa 1974, my mate also has number 198 which is around 1964 or so.... Horses for courses though, I don't imagine that there are many toppers that are as old as 26 (I seems to remember seeing that they were 'new' around 20 years ago). Paul ------------- Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 8:22pm
We raced a 420 in the 10000s once, faired well against the squadies  .... Could have been my crew helming though------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 8:23pm
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First topper was built in 1975.In 1977 the Topper was awarded the Design Council Award and the Horner Award for achievements in plastics, according to the class assosiation ------------- Topper 43749 |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 8:25pm
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We had a GRP one at our club, was definately one of the first ones ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 10:07pm
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One of the instructors down at our club has got his hands on a "Maurder" and he belives it was built around 1970 and it is in very good condition. Even though its 30years old, the hull design is very similar to that of an RS 200, hes got a few finishing touches to do and then hes going to put it thru its paces ------------- Jp Indoe Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 11:38pm
| I know the Maurader. I don't think the hull shape is much like a 200 myself it being a much flatter hull near the stern to give it more stability. In the past the reasoning was that trapeze boats had to be stable (look at the Contender). It used to be called the Mirror 14 and was a single trapeze boat but constructed (I believe) by the "stitch & glue" method first developed for the Mirror. I imagine it was quite light compared to its contemporary designs. The yardstick (and performance) must be similar to a Fireball. |
Posted By: HannahJ
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 8:57pm
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I've been sailing a Miorr from 1968, i think... that would explain the rot....
------------- MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin" The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 9:19pm
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We raced a mirror with a 4 figure sail number, was a really nice boat actually ------------- Dennis Watson 49er GBR735 http://www.helensburghsailingclub.co.uk/ - Helensburgh S.C http://www.noblemarine.co.uk/home.php3?affid=560 - Boat Insurance from Noble Marine |
Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 9:38pm
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Telking of old Toppers what about this one on e-bay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/topper-sailing-dinghy-with-road-trailer-nice-boat_W0QQitemZ7183926663QQcategoryZ98955QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/topper-sailing-dinghy-with-road-traile r-nice-boat_W0QQitemZ7183926663QQcategoryZ98955QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem Is it really a Topper? ------------- Bonnie Lass Contender 1764 |
Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 27 Sep 05 at 10:52pm
Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 9:42am
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Its looks like an early fibreglass one , not a prototype, thats how early ones were made we had one briefly for nippers sail no 2727 rare to make thousands of protos ! Some folk thought they would be quick with modern rig as hull stiffer and lighter.
Who nose ????
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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 10:51am
Nope. The Topper was an established class - if not especially popular - for some time before the injection moulding happened. So it is a pukka production boat. The injection mouling was a changeto an existing class, not a brand new boat. |
Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 11:04am
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Well it's a bit different to a Topper but on the theme of old boats winning races, Sunstone was built in 1964, had a highly successful career in RORC racing in the 80s and 90s, including 5 class wins in the Fastnet, and was a member of the winning England Commodore's Cup team in 1996, since when she has been blue-water cruising worldwide. http://www.sunstonesailing.com/backgrnd/backgrnd.html - http://www.sunstonesailing.com/backgrnd/backgrnd.html
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