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    Posted: 11 Dec 08 at 12:30pm

Hi there GRF - apols for being offline, as you seem to have got the wrong end of what I said (back on page 7 or so).

I like the idea of progress / development, the point I was making, is that if you wanted the fantasy boat to look something like a 505/f'ball/FD/Javelin etc, then you need to factor in the cost of a fully adjustable rig, so that the power can be switched on and off effectively enough to make the hullshape viable across the wind range.....that's all..!

Two other points.

Costwise, the boat that Dougal and I won the 2003 Nationals was built in 1995 and cost us £5,500 when we bought it in 2003.  Our boat was 1 number newer than 8554 which you can see in the photograph of the 505's a few pages back. 

That boat is still owned by an American called Doug Hagan, and he has had top 10 worlds finishes in that boat during the past 5 years.  Interestingly that photo also has 7771 in it.  That is about a 1983 boat, that has the greatest worlds record of any 505 ever...except perhaps 8266 (the boat that Howie Hamlin is sailing, also in that picture).  I just wonder how well a 25 year old Alto is likely to perform?

Finally on the old men and wellie boots comment.  Our team for the Battle of the Classes this year will (work allowing) have 2 boats in it.  The 4 sailors will have an average age of about 32.  I am the oldest at 35.  I trust that your class will be demonstrating a much younger demographic.

 



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newbies, yes, to that boat, but title winning wind surfers, so clearly experts....
the same, but different...

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The other 'development' boat.

In a freshening 20 -25 kts on the sea.

Crewed by Newbies..
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Originally posted by winging it

I looked at the asbo website again last night.  There were some pics of some experienced sailors presumably sailing the finished version, and it still didn't inspire me as much as a 5oh does.  The proof of the pudding, of course, is in the eating: I am still awaiting my invite  oh, and I'm afraid this pic of yellow wellied old beardies was the only one I could copy across... Clearly the photographer caught them just before they got into their morris traveller and trundled home for a nice cup of tea and a round of golf...


That's not the finished article- that's the development boat, that has an actual 5oh hull (no chines).
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Originally posted by winging it

I am still awaiting my invite 



You'd only shout at me for doing it all wrong.

Originally posted by winging it

Clearly the photographer caught them just before they
got into their morris traveller and trundled home for a nice cup of tea and a
round of golf...



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I looked at the asbo website again last night.  There were some pics of some experienced sailors presumably sailing the finished version, and it still didn't inspire me as much as a 5oh does.  The proof of the pudding, of course, is in the eating: I am still awaiting my invite 

oh, and I'm afraid this pic of yellow wellied old beardies was the only one I could copy across...



Clearly the photographer caught them just before they got into their morris traveller and trundled home for a nice cup of tea and a round of golf...
the same, but different...

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Or a five oh hull with the top deck removed and covered in a flexi deck
cover..


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I was thinking of two kites for our Fantasy 900, namely the 505.
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You'd need a boat that didn't mind the extra weight - I think a 3000 lacks the hull volume to cope with 2 kites up in the bow, but the FD must have hardly noticed. Difficult to think of a modern design that could cope. Laser Stratos, maybe??!
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Originally posted by Doug.H

Hmm, I like the idea of being able to go downwind like an assy because of the monster kite on a 505. So, rather than a smaller or flatter kite, dare I say it..... 2 kites onboard??

Spoken like a true sailmaker, Doug!

But actually, why not? I'm thinking a nice high aspect, flat, small asymmetric with good lift/drag for reaching and a monster symmetric for downwind. Would it be possible to rig them so they could both be launched from their individual chutes but didn't interfere with each other, I wonder (and would I find a crew to sort it all out)?

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