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    Posted: 24 Feb 08 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by GK.LaserII

Originally posted by Garry

Originally posted by radixon

 Unless you were behind him to begin with then the fastest boat rule comes in.

? haven't heard of the fastest boat rule in racing?

Must mean the overtaking boat rule??

Really, what rule is that?

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That one went out how many years ago? Along with mast abaft the beam...
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Originally posted by HannahJ

That one went out how many years ago? Along with mast abaft the beam...

 

Indeed.  That's the one

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Originally posted by dopamine

While racing in a very mixed fleet today we rounded a windward mark alongside another boat and set off down a reach to the next mark.  We were in an assymetric and to leeward of the other boat which was a Phantom. We had our kite launched and began to head up to power up, luffing the Phantom who called us to "sail our proper course". We replied that as an assymetric boat it was our proper course.

What is correct here?

Hi dopamaine,

I think that it all depends on where, when and how the boats became overlapped and whether or not they were within two boat lengths of each other (Rules 11 & 17).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 08 at 10:36pm
Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by GK.LaserII

Originally posted by Garry

Originally posted by radixon

 Unless you were behind him to begin with then the fastest boat rule comes in.

? haven't heard of the fastest boat rule in racing?

Must mean the overtaking boat rule??

Really, what rule is that?

Dunno...ain't got a clue what I'm talking about    Can't find my rule book, last saw it when I chucked it at the cat which was trying to cr*p in the parlour palm.

 

Edit, found it.

Boats on same tack, boat clear astern shall keep clear of boat ahead.  i.e. if overtaking, keep clear of the boat you are overtaking (thats how I read it anyway, if I'm wrong please correct)

Not called the overtaking rule or the fastest boat rule but does apply to both situations.



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Originally posted by GK.LaserII

Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by GK.LaserII

Originally posted by Garry

Originally posted by radixon

 Unless you were behind him to begin with then the fastest boat rule comes in.

? haven't heard of the fastest boat rule in racing?

Must mean the overtaking boat rule??

Really, what rule is that?

Dunno...ain't got a clue what I'm talking about    Can't find my rule book, last saw it when I chucked it at the cat which was trying to cr*p in the parlour palm.

 

Edit, found it.

Boats on same tack, boat clear astern shall keep clear of boat ahead.  i.e. if overtaking, keep clear of the boat you are overtaking (thats how I read it anyway, if I'm wrong please correct)

Not called the overtaking rule or the fastest boat rule but does apply to both situations.

Nope; no concept of "overtaking" in there.  Simply that a boat behind cannot sail up the back of a boat in front.

As soon as one boat is starting to overtake, either boat becomes windward or leward, and then other rules apply.
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Yup. You're either clear ahead, clear astern, or overlapped. The rule doesn't care about relative speeds, but does care about how you got there (if overlapped)....

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Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

Yup. You're either clear ahead, clear astern, or overlapped. The rule doesn't care about relative speeds, but does care about how you got there (if overlapped)....

Yep you're probably right, however I shall be bearing that rule in mind when I am overtaking the slower boat in front, particularly if he or she is determined to stay clear ahead which is usually the case.

....by the way, I only commented about overtaking in order to attempt an understanding of radixons post. But on the plus side, I have found my rule book  

 



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I understand where you are coming from, in essence it is the section of the rules that applies to overtaking boats, but for the purposes of protests and calling rules it's better to keep referring to clear astern, clear ahead, overlapped and so forth... Doesn't mean the rules won't change it all again next year....
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