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    Posted: 01 Jul 12 at 10:21pm
If a boat establishes an overlap to leeward within 2bl, she can sail her proper course but no higher. If she establishes an overlap more than 2bl away, she can luff to HtW. If a boat establishes an overlap to windward, the leeward boat can luff to HtW. 

All alterations of course by a RoW boat must comply with 16.1.


Edited by Presuming Ed - 01 Jul 12 at 10:22pm
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So it does become about intent, whether the rules mention it or not.

Luffing someone to stay ahead of them is sailing above your proper course. Luffing someone because that is where you'd be going if that boat wasn't there, isn't.

Therefore, convincing a protest committee that your proper course changed because of outside factors which had nothing to do with the boat you luffed become all about intent.
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Originally posted by Presuming Ed

If a boat establishes an overlap to leeward within 2bl, she can sail her proper course but no higher. If she establishes an overlap more than 2bl away, she can luff to HtW. If a boat establishes an overlap to windward, the leeward boat can luff to HtW. 

All alterations of course by a RoW boat must comply with 16.1.


This sounds like a sensible understandable answer (if its correct) Out of curiosity how do you prove you are or are not sailing your proper course? or is that a whole new can of worms?
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If you carried on sailing the same heading for the next quarter mile after the overlap was broken that's pretty good evidence for the PC you were sailing a proper course. If on the other hand you changed back to the original heading as soon as you were clear then its pretty good evidence that it wasn't.

For what little my opinion is worth I don't agree with Rupert at all about intent - or quite a lot else on this thread.
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Maybe we are thinking of slightly different meanings to intent, because what you have described fits mine - the intention was clear in both your examples. Intent becomes less clearcut in other circumstances. 
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