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Topic: Crap Day.
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: Crap Day.
Date Posted: 07 Apr 14 at 12:29pm
2nd week running I haven't raced because I'm back on the sea and the lake boys did, this week the viz wasn't good and it was a bit rainy gloomy with a forecast for lots of wind and after all the good weather and the fact it was the first time out this season, the Hythe an Saltwood Tea and Cake Eating club declined to race - the pussies.

So I didn't get to try my turbo assisted wing wang in anger - gutted.

I bet they had a good race down the lake.

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Posted By: yellowwelly
Date Posted: 07 Apr 14 at 2:59pm
Originally posted by iGRF

the Hythe an Saltwood Tea and Cake Eating club declined to race - the pussies.

they must be inspired by their new commodore....


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 9:29am
Another blow out Sunday, this time a completely weird wind angle, not especially strong and not particularly big shore dump, but high tide and the angle meant we couldn't launch and clear the rock groin then the sun came out, gorgeous day otherwise and we're not on the water, I bet the lake boys had a good day..

More Tea, Cake and Spinnaker bimbling...

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Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 9:39am
I get the feeling that you might be starting to understand why so many people choose to sail on lakes.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 9:58am
the grass is greener there Graeme- leave the cover on the boat and grab a board, so you didn't race... whatever.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 10:42am
Wasn't windy enough to windsurf, even the kiters struggled with 17 mtr Turbines (It's a model name of a light wind kite) in other words perfect dinghy racing weather, just another sign of the weird weather patterns and wind directions we've been getting of late.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 28 Apr 14 at 10:56am
erm, the benefit of dinghy sailing is, you are supposed to be able to do it whatever the wind direction.  The usual compromise is that the upper wind limit is fairly restrictive - not such an issue in UK with its prevailing light wind conditions.

All this onshore, cross-off, offshore, longshore rip, high tide, back eddys - sure we're familiar with it, but it doesn't stop us sailing....

sometimes you've got to accept there's a fundamental problem with the location.  

Move to Poole Harbour when you retire.


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 10:38am
3 More lost sea days, Sunday, Tuesday Night no wind, Thursday Night wind switched off just as we're getting the boats out, it's getting very tedious this.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 10:51am
Does get frustrating. The alternative is a jet ski, though...

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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 10:58am
Originally posted by Rupert

Does get frustrating. The alternative is a jet ski, though...


Now wash your mouth out with Carbolic Shocked


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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 11:10am
yep totally frustrating.... booked Sunday or Monday for a coastal dash for months, now no wind forecast anywhere drivable.  I'll head to Oxford SC to check it out on Sunday- gets me out of meeting up with the inlaws at least.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 1:06pm
The alternative at our place seems to be an increasing number of SUP riders paddling off down the coast for their exercise.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 1:17pm
I must try this SUP business one day - I can't see why it is better than sitting down and paddling?

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by iGRF

The alternative at our place seems to be an increasing number of SUP riders paddling off down the coast for their exercise.

The alternative our way is resign oneself to a non-sailable hangover.... fortunately Malmaison has obliged with a cheap room saturday night, the monkeys are farmed out and what was going to be a sober meal with wife and friends before a dawn raid to the south coast, is getting turned into some intense consumption of Rennie and Nurofen on sunday morning following the inevitable lash-up on no-wind weekends.

Sailing would be a healthier pastime.... but binge drinking and extravagant food is at least more socially acceptable.


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 02 May 14 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by Rupert

I must try this SUP business one day - I can't see why it is better than sitting down and paddling?



Come down to Hythe for the weekend of July 5-6 bring Rupertson, you can not only try out all Rodneys boats including the Zero's, D1's, Icon etc but we'll have hard SUP's blow up SUP's you can try..

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Posted By: iitick
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 9:32am
Well last weekend I finally got out there. Practice on Saturday and racing on Sunday. I have been unable to sail so far this year because of physical incapacity and unsailable wind, for me at least. On Sunday I bashed round the reser. for three hours racing at the back of the fleet with the same polite gentlemen I always do. Very enjoyable even the insulting remarks from the 'former boy' when he was coming back as I was going up.

Bit stiff now though.......


Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 10:03am
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by Rupert

I must try this SUP business one day - I can't see why it is better than sitting down and paddling?



Come down to Hythe for the weekend of July 5-6 bring Rupertson, you can not only try out all Rodneys boats including the Zero's, D1's, Icon etc but we'll have hard SUP's blow up SUP's you can try..

Graeme you do realise that your open day is the same weekend as THE BIGGEST dinghy handicap open of the year don't you?  Rodney really wants me to go, but i am struggling as the whole family had planned to come up to the Lord Birkett this year and i am right in the dog house for even suggesting i cant go.Confused


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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 10:16am
hmm, July... Kent Coast in board shorts or full thermals in the Lake District...?  

Difficult decision... Confused


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Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 10:35am
Originally posted by kneewrecker

hmm, July... Kent Coast in board shorts or full thermals in the Lake District...?  

Difficult decision... Confused

It will be roasting up there Jimbo, the most stunning scenery, great part, beer and friends and the sailing aint bad either.  You should do it at least once mate, its a celebration of all that remains great in this sport.

EDIT* It may not be my decision to make, the wife wants to come with the kids then i am sorry the decision will of been made for me


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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 11:10am
Same weekend as the biggest Nationals of the year, too...

Well, the biggest (only) Nationals at Whitefriars, anyway!


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 12:40pm
Lord Birkett?

There will be Northerners there, probably with warm beer, Ferrets in their trousers sailing GP14's and definitely Black Pudding for breakfast, why would you? And you can't understand a word anyone says..(how they sail in those clogs is beyond me..)

Who was Lord Birkett anyway, probably one of King John's robber barons?

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Posted By: AlexM
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 12:51pm
#8
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/tests/YachtsandYachting50Regattas_Top10.pdf

I'm hoping to do it this year (first time)


Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 1:03pm
Birkett? ... I'm already in ....almost the first thing in my diary every year now. Unbelivably I did consider "Birkett or Tour De France in t'Yorkshire?" ... Birkett wins out every time

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 06 May 14 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by fleaberto

Birkett? ... I'm already in   


Are you taking the EPS Lee?

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 09 May 14 at 4:11pm
Heads Up.... it's going to be blown off at Hythe on Sunday.... expect 'Crap Day' update monday morning.

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Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 09 May 14 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by fleaberto

Birkett? ... I'm already in   


Are you taking the EPS Lee?


Yeah, that's the plan. Already entered in it - though if the forecast blows up I might change down to the Lightning

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 09 May 14 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by kneewrecker

Heads Up.... it's going to be blown off at Hythe on Sunday.... expect 'Crap Day' update monday morning.


Yep already breaking out the short board ready, think it's low tide as well.. We were blown off last night as well, High Tide Force 6, we've missed a lot this year and the Lake was blown off on Wednesday, I'm beginning to question my choice of pastimes..

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 12 May 14 at 9:57am
Originally posted by kneewrecker

Heads Up.... it's going to be blown off at Hythe on Sunday.... expect 'Crap Day' update monday morning.


You know what? It needn't have been, the wind went west so the sea wasn't exactly huge, but because of the forecast no-one really showed, that and the fact the day before's big gusts had blown the spinner clean off the club anemometer, so another crap sailing week (for sailing dinghies and three more lost days) Lets hope things improve this week.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 12 May 14 at 2:09pm
yep the dreaded windguru effect....  it's a first world problem: instead of groups of would-be racing sailors braving it without rescue cover to 'go out for burn-up', then rampaging around the town of Paignton in various states of inebriation, the 21st Century is so technologically advanced, that young men  with a pass away from home, get the 'windguru call' and find out their long-awaiting weekend away has been canned...

One of my best results in an RS100 race was when hardly anyone else showed up as the forecast was nuclear.... so bad I only packed the girly sail.  Bad mistake.... we weren't even planing by the afternoon and I was toast.  




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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 May 14 at 10:01am
Back on the sea last night and crew less, it was a perfect sunny evening low water 6-8 mph when I got there, then the wind knotched up, to 6-8 kts, then 10-12kts then 13-14kts average at which point I though damn, I'd better break out the smaller sail, 1st time on the sea single handed and all.
Big mistake, as usual, gun goes wind drops then the slow realisation that even in its newness an 8.4 isn't holding or pointing anything like a laser and by the time the top reach arrives out to sea the wind is less (our coast has a thermal accelerated band close in and 200 yards out you're left with the residual gradient wind which was still the 6-8 knots my man in his Laser cruised by underneath me, I am going mental.

The one area the jolly old EPS normally has an advantage over the standard Laser on fresh water is down wind, not tonight , by the the first gybe virtually the entire mackerel fleet had had it's evil way with me, by the bottom mark I'd been violated, by everyone except my chum and fellow lightweight who'd switched to his radial and was part of the decision making process that had condemned me to another 40 minutes of wrong sail hell and just as I was thinking it couldn't get any worse the tide switched on and I kissed the top mark. (didn't even use my tongue). Howls from my Phantom friend who'd gone too far inshore and missed a shift so I'm now spinning as well.

The two main Laser men are gone and I'm left battling it out with the 'old people' both of whom are in front of me and cruising, leaving wide berths round marks over standing left and right, funny you only seem to notice the pain when you're behind, although it had dropped it was still necessary to do that hiking nonsense which is ten times more painful on the sea, especially when the tide turns the course one sided.

Long, painful, (I'm not even going to go into the cramp that sets in)story cut short I did eventually manage to overhaul the Phantom and the Laser of my work colleague both of whom have no place occupying the same leg of the course since they've done no practise all year and I've raced almost continuously all winter. Two tail ender 500's I also kept at bay, but the Contender, two lasers and the Hornet were long gone, I did come close to my Lake protagonist until the lapping Contender forced me to wrong tack out to sea in a forlorn hope rather than be buried, the end result was just as inevitable dropping further back, why do we do it, even though we know it's wrong, the tack is hopeless, why do we still take it?

Whatever as crap a race as it was, I enjoyed the night and realise I've got to toughen myself up, all this lake sailing is making me a softie..

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 16 May 14 at 10:50am
You are complying about having to hike, so a bigger sail would just have made it worse, and upwind no faster.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 16 May 14 at 10:57am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

You are complying about having to hike, so a bigger sail would just have made it worse, and upwind no faster.


Au contraire, no it wouldn't have improved the upwind bit, but the downwind bit would have meant I'd have regained my upwind losses, which is the normal course of events, in fact pretty much all that is open to the lightweight once the breeze is above his threshold. It wasn't as if it was terminally windy, it was me being stupid and given I don't normally sail single handed it wasn't going to count for anything series wise so I thought well I've never used this small rig, funnily enough toward the end of the night when the wind dropped a bit further I started gaining ground upwind, but still couldn't make my normal gains off wind. I guess it wasn't me doing anything it was the rest of them slowing down upwind and I stayed about the same speed.
Either way the biggest rig you can handle still remains the best racing tool, exactly the same as windsurfing and I screwed up, exactly the same way I might have done chicken rigging windsurfing.
All the pain, but no gain.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 03 Sep 14 at 9:08pm
Well today it was going so well, 4 minute lead, enough to nail the nearest Solo and the next Laser also back far enough, coming on top of my round island improvement, I'm beginning to feel I've cracked this sitting down lark.. To this moment I can't figure what happened next just as I was rounding what shall now be called capsize corner since something similar happened for a different reason a few months back, but this time not a dry capsize, I'm swimming, the first time I think I've come right out of the EPS to the point it's nearly turtled before I could get the bloody board, which is half up down because I was reaching about to hit the shallows, I think I was reaching to put it down when i fell into the bottom of the boat or something similarly stupid.
It's also in clew first so not easy to get up, then over again and another swim and get back in, by the time I'm back running my leads halved I feel like sh*t, i actually believed I'm in shock, it's been that long since I've had to recover from treading water and I lost..

Then as if that's not enough I go to recover the buoy, and f**k me if I didn't go in again...

Gutted and having a bit of a lie down to recover...

I hate capsizes, it's the worse part of this lark.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 8:40am
All part of the game, isn't it, or you'd be sailing a Squib?

http://www.squibs.co.uk/


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 8:59am
OMG how many ghastly classes are there? Another one I'd never heard of I wonder where they get sailed.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 9:34am
Weymouth, Dartmouth, Essex... all over really.  Brown Sails... love them.

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 9:50am
Why? Has to be the inevitable next question, then, when we're talking about our 'sport' and its decline, do we regard sailing those things as doing the same thing we're doing? I mean in the way you view lead mining, surely it's the same sort of thing?

I guess you have to, they've got sails, pointy at the front, wiggle thing at the back, except it has men dressed in anoraks and sou'westers ..

What have I become?

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 9:51am
Originally posted by iGRF

What have I become?

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 10:38am
The better you get and the more rarely you capsize, the worse capsizes become, at least that's my experience.

Your average Laser beginner has his leg over the side ready with every passing gust, so dry capsizes are the norm. As you progress, you just aren't geared up for them so they become more of an issue. And, of course, you have become more accustomed to a decent result, so the effects of a capsize become more 'disastrous'.

Yeah, I agree, I hate capsizing. So much , in fact, that the K1 looks interesting. Except I like chatting to a crew; pity the K2 is so staid.   Maybe K3 will be a racy trap boat. The keel bulb weight becomes less significant to performance the bigger the boat.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 10:43am
haha - that's brought back memories of deliberately controlled-capsizing Lasers at windy wing marks as it was still quicker than tacking around them  LOL

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 04 Sep 14 at 10:55am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

The better you get and the more rarely you capsize, the worse capsizes become, at least that's my experience.



Well I'm glad to hear it, honestly I felt I was actually in shock yesterday after all that, it makes it worse i guess all that swimming about in fresh water, that's not fun. Funny I was telling this relatively new chap who is a bit sea shy, how much easier everything is on the sea, it's why we come down here said I, to get better at boat handling, mark rounding, wind shift appreciation, capsize recovery however isn't part of the deal, it's a lake, the waters flat, we shouldn't be the only one chucking himself into the bottom of the boat with the sheet uncleated allowing the boom to go ahead of the mast and be rolling about in the scuppers of the wrong side shortly to become a new addition to pond life.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 05 Sep 14 at 9:24am
skunked for NWF by the looks of things..... 2-5 knots is below my sailable threshold, looks like I will just have to have a few beers and make a royal nuisance of myself in the kite surfing tent.  

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Sep 14 at 10:54am
I'm off to the father in laws funeral now, it's the 2nd Funeral this week, depending how long it goes on I'll either leave straight after, or tomorrow first thing, the boys are already down there.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 05 Sep 14 at 10:59am
Sorry to hear that, I hope the family are okay.

I'm heading tomorrow first thing - via Little Chef. It will be the highlight of the weekend judging from Windguru - apart from buying you a beer of course ;-)

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 05 Sep 14 at 1:59pm
Little Chef A3? I'll be there, not sure how early but early enough.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 05 Sep 14 at 2:12pm
A34 mate... no point coming that far east for me.

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Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 10 Sep 14 at 11:52am
Crap day? .....crap weekend really (Results-wise anyway).
Far too much booze the night before the Lightning368 Nationals - I blame the Jagermeister, Rupert told me to also blame the French..to which I must agree!)
4 races on the Saturday of which I actually only really remember 1 of them.....Hangover started halfway through Race 1 on Sunday......I'm never drinking again.

Well, after Southport this weekend that is.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Sep 14 at 1:48pm
Now you know why I went to bed early, Lee - I couldn't keep up with you!

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Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 11 Sep 14 at 8:36am
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

The better you get and the more rarely you capsize, the worse capsizes become, at least that's my experience.



Well I'm glad to hear it, honestly I felt I was actually in shock yesterday after all that, it makes it worse i guess all that swimming about in fresh water, that's not fun. Funny I was telling this relatively new chap who is a bit sea shy, how much easier everything is on the sea, it's why we come down here said I, to get better at boat handling, mark rounding, wind shift appreciation, capsize recovery however isn't part of the deal, it's a lake, the waters flat, we shouldn't be the only one chucking himself into the bottom of the boat with the sheet uncleated allowing the boom to go ahead of the mast and be rolling about in the scuppers of the wrong side shortly to become a new addition to pond life.

I endorse those sentiments. I never fell in at all last season and neither this so far. In consequence I am out of practice and nervous. As well as getting old. 

I did split my head open a couple of weeks ago during an unplanned tack. Bleed? I have never bled like that before! It took me a long time to scrub it out of my clothing.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 11 Sep 14 at 1:55pm
I'm exactly the same when it comes to capsizing. I keep on meaning to go out on a windy day and push it till I fall in a lot to get the practice (doing it on purpose just isn't the same) but I don't like water that much. Now, if we were sailing on cider, that would be different!

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 11 Sep 14 at 2:07pm
Originally posted by Rupert

doing it on purpose just isn't the same

True, and similarly while many beginners' capsizes are simple blowings over to leeward on the beat or reach, experts' capsizes tend to be more often to windward after pushing too hard.  Windward capsizes on a reach/run tend to lead to fast inversions with both crew in the water and little opportunity to climb over the high side onto the board.  Altogether more hassle, especially when wind and waves complicate the righting process.


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Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 11 Sep 14 at 5:48pm
A very good point. I capsized to leeward once this year, something I dont recall doing for about 6years! Most capsizes for experienced people come during gybes or as you say, pushing too hard and getting wiped off the windward side.
Biggest mistake most people make once capsized is to hang off of the boat or the rig. An inversion can often be avoided by leaving the boat alone and swimming around as quickly as possible.


Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 11 Sep 14 at 5:53pm
I'm glad it's not just me! I've put the Albacore over twice this year; more than the last 4 put together I think. The Grad has only been over once in 6 years. Maybe it's lack of practice but it takes ages to get the Alb back up; I've ditched it for one with more buoyancy, which might not help!

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Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 11 Sep 14 at 6:35pm
Ah, we are getting an attack of honesty here! The reason I gave up sailing Byte C2 is because it kept falling over! Bear away, not sheet out quickly enough....plop.....invert.....get it back up....not nimble enough to leap back in so over it came on top of me. Lightning much more stable!


Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 2:10pm
guys- it's a watersport, no harm in getting a little bit wet every now and again.  Although that said, I did offer a 'For F*cks Sake' at myself for falling off my board mid tack at NWF last weekend, then some nice gentleman said to me, 'don't worry son, it doesn't matter' and then lifted my mast tip with his foot as he went past.  He had a nice attitude... no doubt if it were a dinghy event someone would have told us we both 'broke the rules' and his action was grossly unfair.  

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 2:23pm
I dunno, if someone capsizes I'll always check that they are OK before I start laughing. More difficult to give any real help, though, barring in an emergency.

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Posted By: balladsailor
Date Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 7:54pm
A great day turned into a crap day!
Having a blast in my Supernova between races at Sailfest, ran aground at speed! Spectacular pitch pole but no obvious damage so sailed on and completed the weekend.
Since then I have suffered with horrendous sciatica; missed the Inlands last week, spent the day in A&E, and the doctors think it was the capsize that started it all off.  now that's what I call a crap day!


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 7:57pm
Oh sh*t sorry to hear about that, my crew has got a horrid bout of sciatica, not pleasant at all.

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Posted By: balladsailor
Date Posted: 12 Sep 14 at 11:20pm
You wouldn't wish it on anybody ...... I have never experienced pain like it .... My other half says it's not as bad as childbirth though!
A mix of cocodomol and iboprufen seem to be working; hoping to be fit for Bart's Bash!


Posted By: iiitick
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 8:30am
You have my sympathy Gordon.....it happened to me some years ago when my children were small. I thought my working life was over. Pain so bad I was offered morphine! But, you know it cleared up and never came back so there is hope!


Posted By: balladsailor
Date Posted: 14 Sep 14 at 9:16am
Thanks John, it's getting better. I am working on the big boat, climbing ladders and crawling about ok. Just hope I'm well enough to sail next weekend ...... Fingers crossed,
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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 15 Sep 14 at 6:56am
I wouldn't trust myself to sail close enough to another dinghy's mast tip to lift it!

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 26 Sep 14 at 7:17pm
Think I might have sold my main boat today - sensible decision now we're restricted to school holidays, but still feels a bit weird- Boatless for the first time in 27 years. 😱

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Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 27 Sep 14 at 7:58pm
What the Bendytoy?
I have dabbled with being boatless before mate, and basically it leads to doing silly things. Best to stay avec bateau. You know what you have to do. Smile


Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 27 Sep 14 at 8:41pm
Yep- used it 3 times this year, poor return on investment for 200 a month marina fees.

And buying a boat- are you and rodders offering 1/16th scale models for the bath yet?

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Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 27 Sep 14 at 9:22pm
I have some yellow 1:6 i14 models if that is of interest?!



Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 10:54am
I14 - doubt I could sail one, even a model of one in a bath, besides it's got a lousy handicap compared the RNLI wind up toy and the Ariel swimming mermaid doll.

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Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 11:24am
Valid points, although you should come along for a play one day- its quite a laugh!



Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 11:42am
Russ can do it!


Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 1:07pm
true enough... if Russ can....  charter options for the odd event definitely a consideration!

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 2:33pm
Well today, in perfect sailing conditions, sun, nice easterly breeze, I learned that cable ties are not the answer to my footstrap problem. both feet in fully hiking, P.I.S.S. engaged - spectacular failure, in fact so spectacular I'm having a little lie down to recover, lucky for me the camera ran out of memory before the incident..

Both feet up in the air reverse pike to somersault...

Trev is going to crack up when I tell him.

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Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 4:31pm
The trouble with cable ties is you look at them and see a big thick piece of plastic, and you don't look at them much closer and find out that the business bit of engineering is a tiny little plastic tab...


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 4:53pm
Yep that little tab aint there anymore, so the big question do I double them up, or revert back to rope and knots? I use them a lot, Trev (my crew)takes the piss constantly, I fix all sorts of things with them and tbh this is the first time they've let me down.
Maybe I'll try thicker ones since they're all calling me the cable guy anyway.

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Posted By: The Moo
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 5:10pm
They have been used by the previous owner of our boat to neatly secure the toe strap rope loops. Tried copying it for the loop on the new mainsheet and all was fine until an epic fail on windy gybe


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 5:23pm
Nothing wrong with using cable ties, (other than them being a one shot you can't adjust) you just have to size 'em by the little plastic tab, not the main strap.


Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 28 Sep 14 at 7:32pm
Originally posted by kneewrecker

Think I might have sold my main boat today - sensible decision now we're restricted to school holidays, but still feels a bit weird- Boatless for the first time in 27 years. 😱


So now you have money to buy horses and a d-0.
I only post this because I sailed Jeffers boat and loved it, even though there was very little wind.
I want one and I still reckon my best chance is for you to buy one new and for me to buy it off you in eighteen months time Come on James, you know you still want one.


Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 9:26am
Originally posted by Blue One

Originally posted by kneewrecker

Think I might have sold my main boat today - sensible decision now we're restricted to school holidays, but still feels a bit weird- Boatless for the first time in 27 years. 😱


So now you have money to buy horses and a d-0.
I only post this because I sailed Jeffers boat and loved it, even though there was very little wind.
I want one and I still reckon my best chance is for you to buy one new and for me to buy it off you in eighteen months time Come on James, you know you still want one.

haha - if only- the money will be going into my Euro account as a holiday fund.  

Converting it back to sterling is going to be too painful right now.... 


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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 9:32am
You have a Euro a/c in UK, KW?  Does it pay any useful interest or is the bank ripping you off, as usual?

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 9:49am
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

You have a Euro a/c in UK, KW?  Does it pay any useful interest or is the bank ripping you off, as usual?

nope- I looked into it, but it made more sense to take out a Spanish bank account.  They do not rip you off, unless you use a cash point from another provider- then you are royally fleeced.  It's less of an issue now, our Bank merged with another one just after the crisis and that means there's plenty of holes in walls.  

It also pays to extend the facilities to cover other countries in the Eurozone- I once made the mistake of using my spanish debit card in a french ski resort without checking the out of country charges... d'oh.  Embarrassed


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Posted By: Daniel Holman
Date Posted: 29 Sep 14 at 7:19pm
Here we go, some genuinely useful consumer advice!


Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 04 Oct 14 at 8:07pm
Tides all wrong so I got cracking on the base for my new man cave, bloody hard work as it turns out! Would have been far better to go sailing...


Posted By: gordon1277
Date Posted: 24 Feb 15 at 3:48pm
Last Sunday
towed the boat over to Chichester for 2 races of the snowflake and to sail against another Phantom, rig the boat, enter grab a coffee only to see phantom packing up to go home. He was feeling ill so cant blame him as the forecast was looking like hard work.
Decided as I was their to race anyway, launch beat up to the windward mark, run back to the start couple of tacks and a gybe really just hanging about waiting for guns.
Big Bang (but not the gun) U bolt attaching the shroud snaps and bends luckily leaving the shroud still hooked on the end.
Sail down get tow back to the club, pack up and go home!


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 24 Apr 16 at 9:17pm
What a crap day today was, not only am I back in the Dry Suit with my wrong gloves, then just lining up for the gun twenty seconds to go and suddenly nothings working, almost like I'm head to wind, in fact I was head to wind massive shift everyone down the wrong end of the line suddenly bang over to port and fly. Not only that but the Contender just below me is in the water which puts a laser over into me and I'm having to gybe off.
I think I made it off the line last, cold and as if it couldn't get any worse, my footstrap snaps...

In the end I was pleased to have a reason to sail straight in, bloody aweful day, 5 degrees ffs.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 25 Apr 16 at 8:21am
Not bad, only 2 crap sailing days in 14 months!

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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 25 Apr 16 at 11:09am
True, I get much much more pleasure than pain which makes the painful ones all the more traumatising..

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Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 26 Apr 16 at 9:11am
Originally posted by iGRF

What a crap day today was, not only am I back in the Dry Suit with my wrong gloves, then just lining up for the gun twenty seconds to go and suddenly nothings working, almost like I'm head to wind, in fact I was head to wind massive shift everyone down the wrong end of the line suddenly bang over to port and fly. Not only that but the Contender just below me is in the water which puts a laser over into me and I'm having to gybe off.
I think I made it off the line last, cold and as if it couldn't get any worse, my footstrap snaps...

In the end I was pleased to have a reason to sail straight in, bloody aweful day, 5 degrees ffs.

probably ChrisG's fault too...  gerrymanderer that he is. Wink



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