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Extreme Sailing Series

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Topic: Extreme Sailing Series
Posted By: Rupert
Subject: Extreme Sailing Series
Date Posted: 09 Jan 14 at 1:00pm
Saw some of this towards the end of the season - really looks like it has got it right in terms of a balance between the sailing and the razzamatazz. Looking forward to seeing it this year.

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Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 09 Jan 14 at 4:22pm
Looks as though this is where all the AC guys are heading to get experience in fast cats, whilst they sort out what is happening with the next AC.


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Jan 14 at 6:11pm
Aye, looks like the AC45s are dead. Somewhat surprised- they've done well to keep the X40s going, thought they'd be shafted by the AC45s.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 09 Jan 14 at 6:57pm
Down to the money needed, I'd think.

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 7:21am
Originally posted by alstorer

Aye, looks like the AC45s are dead. Somewhat surprised- they've done well to keep the X40s going, thought they'd be shafted by the AC45s.


I think you'll find the AC45's back in 2015, once they've announced the kit / venue for the 35th AC. My hunch is they'll fit hydrofoils to the AC45's for a 2015-16 World Series ahead of the Louis Vuitton Cup / America's Cup in 62' foiling catamarans in San Francisco in 2017.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 8:25am
Foiling AC45's would be a sight to see.


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Posted By: Owenfackrell
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 8:42am
Originally posted by Rupert

Foiling AC45's would be a sight to see.

they already have these. Artimis were using them whilst they were waiting for big blue to be ready.


Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 8:50am
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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 11:54am
It'll be interesting to watch a bunch of them fleet racing on foils - suddenly upwind angles, speed and height will be very critical indeed.

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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 1:27pm
they should just stick to the 45 for the next ac anyway, just allow new open design of wings and foils for the actual ac, but od for the world series

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 1:48pm
Just open the whole design up for the AC, but keep the parameters - no self respecting billionaire is going to want the same hulls as the opposition for the cup itself.

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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 3:41pm
but the discerning billionaire will be able to build themselves a small armada of 45's instead Wink

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 4:03pm
They'd be able to build several bespoke 45's for the price of the 72 anyway, I'd have thought.

How much more would a development version of the AC45 cost compared to the One Design, I wonder? Materials wouldn't be a vast amount different - say 1/3 more? Time and manpower on the design and testing side would be the killers, I guess.


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Posted By: Oli
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 5:05pm
most of the money would go towards the development of the boats and crews and not just on building a one off monster with no tangible trickle down benefits to the more average sailor. 

i reckon because of that and the fact that there would be more competition to develop, the sailing world would benefit faster.

guess you could build and develop 4 or 5 ac45s for the price of 1 big boat.


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