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So what really just happened?

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Category: Multihulls
Forum Name: America's Cup
Forum Discription: Your thoughts on challenges to win the 'Auld Mug'
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Topic: So what really just happened?
Posted By: iGRF
Subject: So what really just happened?
Date Posted: 26 Sep 13 at 6:02pm
I know secretly y'all want to hear my take on it, I watched just about the whole thing from start to finish and in my slightly left field layman's eyes as far as I can see, the Kiwi's lost predominantly because of this absurd 'time out rule' that seems to have appeared in sitting down world and cost me the RS100 nationals so dearly.. .

Had that 40min (double the average US TV watchers attention span) race time not come into play the Kiwi's would be back home tending their sheep as only Kiwi's can letting them drink from the silver challis. As it is their early success which I'd attribute more to the fact that they were race fit whereas the yanks, I call them yanks they're not, half of them are convicts, had pretty much just been messing about deciding which of their two boats identical boats to use, (then which they'd rob as they went along), so by the time Benny Boy slid into the tacticians chair the crew had been shown pretty much how to do that clever stuff, like foiling gybes and tacks, the Kiwis had pretty much knackered their boat anyway and probably didn't have a spare.

So after that time out which gave them a bit of a reprieve all Ben had to do was some elementary ass kicking and the faster boat got faster and the knackered boat got slower and as that well known board sailor said way back in 1979, Board speed makes you a tactical genius. (That and probably a far east betting syndicate dropping a bunch of cash in Kiwi Sheep farms on the odd race early on).

That's pretty much it, anyone think different? (I must say I'm a bit embarrassed everyone attributing the success to Sir Ben and I bet even he must be wincing a bit, even though he had to take the convicts by the hand so to speak).

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Posted By: mongrel
Date Posted: 26 Sep 13 at 6:08pm
Apparently, in the film, Paul Hogan will be playing James Spithill, and David Walliams has got the role of Ben Ainslie.


Posted By: MattK
Date Posted: 26 Sep 13 at 10:15pm
http://www.sail-world.com/UK/Americas-Cup:-Speculation-on-Oracle-Team-USAs-foiling-system/115070



Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 26 Sep 13 at 11:26pm
Originally posted by MattK

http://www.sail-world.com/UK/Americas-Cup:-Speculation-on-Oracle-Team-USAs-foiling-system/115070



I don't find that surprising at all, it'll turn out they were robbed, one wonders also on the pressure on the Race Committee to find a solution to make a race of it, at the point that race was cancelled all that money invested not only by the rich American who's name I don't even want to try and remember, coupled to the city of San Francisco which couldn't have had any return at that point.

I can't wait for the movie.

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Posted By: Xpletive
Date Posted: 27 Sep 13 at 8:07am
If you haven't yet seen it, AC Anarchy (Sailing Anarchy) is providing much detail and theory. Worth a look. I found, during the last stages of the Regatta (Reggarddarr,) that a blasphemous thought entered my mind ........that Sir BA had been introduced into the race crew to cover the real reason for their performance improvement. But of course, I know that's nonsense...


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 27 Sep 13 at 9:05am
It was pretty obvious that they had tweaked the technology well past simple boat tune. Personally, I'm amazed they found a solution just in time, but these things can happen. Pretty sure they wern't doing the "last minute" thing on purpose.

What it did do was show just how quick their whole design was, whereas at first it wasn't able to show that potential. Some very clever people working for Oracle.


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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 27 Sep 13 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Xpletive

If you haven't yet seen it, AC Anarchy (Sailing Anarchy) is providing much detail and theory
and no doubt as usual swivel eyed lunacy, conspiracy theroies and trolling misinformation, making it something of a challenege to pick out the good stuff.

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Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 27 Sep 13 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by MattK

http://www.sail-world.com/UK/Americas-Cup:-Speculation-on-Oracle-Team-USAs-foiling-system/115070


Nice article but doesnt that make the Moths with their wands to control foil angle also illegal under RRS42?


Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 27 Sep 13 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by alstorer

Originally posted by Xpletive

<SPAN style="rgba255: ">If you haven't yet seen it, AC Anarchy (Sailing Anarchy) is providing much detail and theory</SPAN>

and no doubt as usual swivel eyed lunacy, conspiracy theroies and trolling misinformation, making it something of a challenege to pick out the good stuff.


According to that AC Anarchy mob they cheated switching on some electronic 'counter measures' which control the foils like a Jumbo jet which if true......

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 27 Sep 13 at 12:44pm
Electronic countermeasures...

did the jam the signals on the comms system on ETNZ, too?

And fire off some wire guided surface to surface missiles, while they were about it?


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