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Topic: Cat startline Posted: 16 Jun 09 at 3:45pm |
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Sunday gone on the start line for the cat fleet, one cat ran directly over the pin end with one hull crossing the line leaving the other hull outside of the line...... So if only half the boat crossed the starline, has he started or not??
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 09 at 3:54pm | |
I would say if the hull/ appendage outside the line wasn't touching the water and they didn;t touch the buoy that would be a good start! Imagine if you passed a mark trapezing and your body went above the mark so long as you don't touch it its ok. |
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alstorer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 09 at 4:51pm | |
There's bound to be something in the case book or judges manual, but I think Neptune's interpretation is correct- as long as everything that's actually in the water (including the tips of boards/rudders, trailing ropes and/or crews etc) passes to the correct side of the mark, then the rest can cheerfully "pass" on the "wrong" side- beyond the actual physical marker itself, a mark does not project upwards- the course is 2D. Massive regatta marks will tend to negate this from occurring.
If they pass over it with both hulls in the water (tiny mark to not hit it!) or even with a daggerboard or rudder tip still in the water (port tack start here) they're in the wrong, and haven't passed it. |
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Scooby_simon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 09 at 5:37pm | |
Use the string rule. Did the line made by the WAKE follow the course. If a hull was flying when you sailed over the mark and so the wake does not go the "wrong side" then I'd say you are OK.
If the boat simply sails over the mark with both hulls in (and thus touches the mark) then you are out! |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 09 at 10:35pm | |
Both hulls were in the water.
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craiggo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 09 at 10:51pm | |
If both hulls were in the water then someone should have protested him out of it!
Even if he'd been flying a hull he would have to have had both the daggerboard and rudder out of the water for it to be ok. SO he should have gone back an re-started. Edited by craiggo |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 09 at 12:39am | |
There is. Q&A 2009-014. Question A catamaran on port tack approaches a leeward mark to be left to port. Does a catamaran that "flies" its port (windward) hull over, and possibly to windward of, a leeward mark comply with the requirements of rule 28.1 in relation to that mark rounding? The starboard hull is the only hull in the water (creating a track) and this hull passes the mark correctly. Answer Yes. http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/QA2009014-[6756].pdf
Rule 28.1 has changed to refer to the TRACK of a boat, not the wake. I think that the Q&A makes it clear that even if you took the 'track' to be the path of the centreline, it would still be OK. |
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Scooby_simon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 09 at 2:16am | |
Very good point, I'd forgottrn that. |
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