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Originally posted by alstorer

why does it have anything to do with "filter down" technology?
 
Lets get this straight.
 
The Americas Cup has always been, from the word go, about massively rich guys (and to some extent these days, corporations) using sailing racing as a subsitute for whipping down their trousers and taking a measuting tape to what's in their pants.
 
Well, quite a lot actually! Think load path sail technology, Millenium, 3DL, 3DI whatever it may be it was all developed through America's Cup teams. Then there are the huge advances in instrumentation technology, developed because these boats need raw data to improve, two boat tuning is out of the question, I don't think they are allowed to, but it would also burn valuable budget which could be spent on the actual boat they are taking to the cup. VPP analysis, where would that be without the input of these teams? You've been looking the wrong way if you you cant see how the America's Cup has traditionally benefitted Joe Public. But wing sail foiling cats, I just don't see where this will benefit me. Composite technology maybe, but most of that comes from the likes of F1 way before it reaches sailing at all!
 
I think you are missing my point in that without the interest for the above reasons, the world will stop watching. If nobody is watching then why would you pull your trousers down when there's nobody to read the tape measure? Simple, or at least I think so!
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The 'boring and not different' ETNZ have had their cat out and foiling well with out the problems that the radical Oracle cat has had.
Even if you can't see how a foiling, wingsailed cat has any bearing on what you are sailing now it doesn't mean that it won't have had any infullance on what you will be sailing in 10 years time.
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Originally posted by Owenfackrell

The 'boring and not different' ETNZ have had their cat out and foiling well with out the problems that the radical Oracle cat has had.
Even if you can't see how a foiling, wingsailed cat has any bearing on what you are sailing now it doesn't mean that it won't have had any infullance on what you will be sailing in 10 years time.
 
I really can't see myself nipping across the channel on a foiling cat somehow, you might, but I dont. Imagine explaining that one to the wife for the first time when her nice comfortable cat suddenly takes off! LOL
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Originally posted by Owenfackrell

The 'boring and not different' ETNZ have had their cat out and foiling well with out the problems that the radical Oracle cat has had.
Even if you can't see how a foiling, wingsailed cat has any bearing on what you are sailing now it doesn't mean that it won't have had any infullance on what you will be sailing in 10 years time.

I think you're forgetting how slowly the mainstay of club racing 'develops'... I'd imagine that in 10 years I'll still be sailing a singlehanded unarig of some description, and no, not one that foils.  I might also have another boat for sailing with the kids in the UK... but that's pipedream stuff at the moment.
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you'll probably be sailing a laser or a solo, which wont be effected by filter down tech anyway, so stop worrying about it
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