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Do you honestly think they forgot to cover?   Even if they had initially planned to go port, they would have protected their prestart advantage if they could. It looked to me like they were pinned out by AUS on the port side. Team racing? Maybe, maybe not.... Either way trying to match race in a fleet race was always a tall order for both NZL and GBR.
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Hindsight is a great thing, especially when doing it from the luxury of your PC tablet with a cool beer in your hand, but in both 470 races there were a key point where the GB sailors lost control. For the boys it was when they crossed the Aussies and didn't tack onto them ( even Simmonds thought that they would do that). For the girls it was letting the Kiwis get across to the right after the start, (It could have been tricky executing due to the other boats, but we all know the effect of separation on such a shifty course.)  But what a weeks sailing from both teams well done, terrific sailing and 2 silver medals, we can't complain about that.
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Fantastic results. What a week Big smile Wonderful to see the 470 guys ecstatically congratulating one another in the water just across the finish!
I agree the visual coverage was brilliant; great variety of different locations - onboard, from the air, from RIBs on the course - but the commentary woefully inadequate from some of the team, well, mainly one. Lucy O'Conner on the boxing -  that's how it should be done.
No wonder some find sailing coverage boring when commentary fails to explain basic techniques, so that those who know nothing can begin to understand the subtleties, and decisions that have to be constantly made to suit an ever-changing unpredictable scenario.
Did anyone spot this amusing Richard Simmonds gaffe - mistaking the Finns for the Aussies in the match-racing, when it's plain that the Finns are leading not even a minute into the start? Watch from the start at 02:09:54
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/live-video/p00w32nb
his blooper is at 02:10:49, and there's a wry stifled chuckle from Leigh Macmillan at 02:11:11 LOL


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When the kiwi's headed off on port I did have a split second of "TACK" going through my head, but then I realised the loss it would've incurred (effectively wiping out 80% of the advantage gained in the pre-start) and thought, no, ok, carry on for a bit.    Very tough decision to take that one was a complete roll of the dice.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by Peaky

Do you reckon the kiters will come from the existing world of kites or squaddie sailors switching over? I could imagine some 49er crews being tempted.

It depends on definitions.... yes, I reckon they will have ktiesurfed before recreationally maybe.  Do I think the kities will come from the existing world of kiteboard racing?  No, except probably in the US where they can't get a pathway up the front drive, never mind to an Olympic sailing medal.  Some ex 29er crew called Johnny Heineken is suitably named and locked for the cool wall.  I'm sure he'll get his ass suitably schooled on what it really takes to make an Olympic champion in due course.  

From the UK.... watch out for the RS:X or Freestyly transitioners....  although there's one kid, Olly Bridge, who's likely to feature in the front runners for selection and is already an early days medal hopeful.  His mum being the 'bird option' apparently.
It was mentioned in the coverage that Dorian is heading to California post games to start his kite surfing campaign. 
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Originally posted by Peaky



Do you reckon the kiters will come from the existing world of kites or squaddie sailors switching over? I could imagine some 49er crews being tempted.

It's an interesting one. One of my objection to kiting is there's no sensible places for those getting started inland, at least in this country- countries with big lakes will be fne, but otherwise it is pretty much coastal only

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AIUI banned in Sydney harbour too?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 12 at 8:26am

Quite possibly. Also, banned from any half-way busy beach in this country.

There's no good prospects for a "Team 15" style grassroots kite-boarding scheme, in this country or elsewhere.

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Low point of the TV coverage - the red flag protest between FIN and RUSin the match racing. Quite obviously the commentators had not a clue about standard MR procedure for resolving disputes.

And their incapacity to explain the idea of giving room to keep clear when ROW boat changes course - as happened in one of the AUS/ESP final races. BBC should give Bill O'Hara a job!

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Bill O'Hara had a job, he was the rules advisor/coach for the Russians
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