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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 3:29pm
I'm just imagining what it would have been like trying to organise a medal kite course race on that course LOL

They should order a special display event, with kites getting up drafted into the crowds.
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How does she do with the showjumping scoring in the three day event. Or dressage? 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote r2d2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 4:24pm
my 5 year old could understand the Tour de France where the winner may not even have won a single stage
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Nothe course still playing snakes & ladders with the 49ers
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What's the matter with you all? A course with unpredictable gusts and windshifts? Sounds perfectly normal to me! What most of us mortals have to contend with! Personally, I'd have liked to see them having to keep raising their boards to clear weed off after every leg like the rest of us plebs!
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Yup, fairer sailing at Frensham than on the Nothe. The 49ers would be truly entertaining at our place
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Originally posted by Xpletive

What's the matter with you all? A course with unpredictable gusts and windshifts? Sounds perfectly normal to me! What most of us mortals have to contend with! Personally, I'd have liked to see them having to keep raising their boards to clear weed off after every leg like the rest of us plebs!
 
Nah, if you're going to to gather the worlds greatest athletes of all sports, you get them to compete in the correct arena.
 
Millions have been spent designing an athletics stadium with an upper section that precludes the swirling winds associated with such structures, in order to aid the victories of the best (not luckiest) athletes.
 
They don't do the 100m heats in the stadium, then the Final in the local High Street.
They don't play the football semis at Wembley, then the final on a dried, cracked school playing field.
So why have the Medal Race on a course a quarter of the size deemed appropriate earlier in the week, in an area of unpredictable gusts and shifts?  If these conditions are acceptible then why didn't we have the Stars on Datchet, the Finns on Queen Mary and the Lasers at Wembley?
 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 6:48am

to be fair, they DID hold the cycling road race on the rough, potholed, nightmare that are the city and country roads of this country.

If they wanted "spectator friendly", they should have gone for King George reservoir- just up the road/railway from Stratford, "compact" and it would have been possible to put pedestrians all the way round it. Minor issue of the Ponders End tower blocks to the south west, but they could have either just coped, or taken it an as excuse to knock the things down...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Oatsandbeans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 6:39pm
I can see why most of the olympians hate the Nothe course, as it is so alien to them.  It is tricky, there is no benefit in having a boat speed or boat handling edge, and all the normal tactics and strategy get turned on their head. Many think it is a lottery and should not represent the pinnacle of sailboat racing. There is, however, another way of looking at it - this is just another type of dinghy racing, possibly one that many of the Olympians are not that good at. Sailing in these conditions is not a lottery it just requires a different skill set to succeed. You could even argue that what they need is more of this type of racing so that the "random" element of the racing is negated, ( 4 double points races close in for the spectators). Shurely there are real sailing skills involved in dealing with such variable conditions, spotting gusts, windshifts, protecting your position on the race course. Just think of the English footballers that complained for years that penalty shoot outs were so random that they never even practiced them  and not surprisingly were cr-p at them. Why dont we go for it, and try to excel in these conditions, we should have a head start, with all the ditches and tiny reservoirs that we all learnt to sail on-we've got to able to show the rest of the world how to handle the light fluky and shifty stuff haven't we. In the next olympics we may even hear the competition complaining that," it went all light and flukey on the medal race and the brits won again!!"
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Originally posted by Oatsandbeans

.... variable conditions, spotting gusts, windshifts, protecting your position on the race course.
 
With legs lasting 2 or 3 minutes it's pretty much luck if you are on the right side of the leg ...
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