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Originally posted by Mark Jardine

I've just written a piece on this at www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/165067/Between-the-rocks-and-a-hard-race
A good item but its focus is on the medal race format rather than the course area which is under discussion here ... of course one componds the other.
 
Whilst the pro's and con's of the medal race are well known at least the implications of the medal race are not random they are known.
 
Racing on the Nothe course is making a mockery of the competition; they could stop this now and move the medal races to a better location.
 
The crowds on the Nothe can still gather and enjoy the atmosphere of watching together on the big screen just as people do on "murry mount" but lets not turn the sport into a farce.
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Yes, GBR are screwing it up so lets change the course!
 
I see we managed to re-seed the rowing lanes to get the Brits out of the windy side of the rowing course too.
 
C'mon, its the same for everyone, show some faith in our guys!
 
ISAF sailing on TV will die on its ar.. soon if it doesn't take a leaf out of the Extreme40 notice of race - look at the rubbish those guys put up with to earn their keep!


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Originally posted by Teamvmg

Yes, GBR are screwing it up so lets change the course!
 
Hardly a Gold and a silver from 2 events ... but this isn't about nationality it's about wanting to see the sailor who has sailed the best series win regardless of their nationality.
 
Probably the "right" result from the two fleets we have seen so far would have been a gold & silver but the other way around ...
 
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Originally posted by Teamvmg

Yes, GBR are screwing it up so lets change the course!
 
I see we managed to re-seed the rowing lanes to get the Brits out of the windy side of the rowing course too.
 
C'mon, its the same for everyone, show some faith in our guys!
 
ISAF sailing on TV will die on its ar.. soon if it doesn't take a leaf out of the Extreme40 notice of race - look at the rubbish those guys put up with to earn their keep!

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Lets not turn this into a nationalistic debate that isn't the point ...
 
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Any live coverage today?
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Any live coverage today?

Freesat channel 156 - 12:45 - 18:30
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Originally posted by Teamvmg

Yes, GBR are screwing it up so lets change the course!
 
I see we managed to re-seed the rowing lanes to get the Brits out of the windy side of the rowing course too.
 
C'mon, its the same for everyone, show some faith in our guys!
 
ISAF sailing on TV will die on its ar.. soon if it doesn't take a leaf out of the Extreme40 notice of race - look at the rubbish those guys put up with to earn their keep!

This is nothing to do with nationalistic bias, it's entirely to do with desire to see high quality competition where the final result is arrived at due to a competitor's skill and NOT how lucky they are.
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You know what? This sucks, and it's turning our sport in to a laughing stock!

I've just spent 4 days on the Nothe (Friday on-site, the other 3 in the cheap seats) and I LOVE the concept - the atmosphere, the view, the facilities are all brilliant. On the water, the course leaves plenty to be desired, as had been mentioned here.
It was interesting to notice that the Radial Medal Race course was set considerable further to leeward that others have been, with the windward mark in line (it appeared) with the viewing area. Is it just a coincedence that the Radials had the Medal Race competed for in a positive manner, with the action at the front of the fleet?

It really is stupid to expect non-sailors to understand not only the scoring system that can allow a chap with a hefty lead to lose it all in an instant, and another chap to "win" gold from being in almost last place. I understand that there is a place for "defensive sailing", but I'm certain that it's not what ISAF intended. If it is what they wanted and expected, then let's stop dicking about (and ruining the pinnacle of fleet racing) and introduce Match Racing in Lasers (or Fireflys).

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