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rogue
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Topic: A few RS600 questions Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 10:32am |
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olly_love
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 10:41am |
Phantoms make me want to start eating pies and take the hit on mid life obesity,
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fudheid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 10:55am |
Having just had a carbon mast repaired i needed to cut a hole for a terminal back plate to rivet on to it. I've spoken to two riggers (one is one of the biggest in the uk) and they both gave a quizzical look when i asked for carbon rivets. What are they? they asked, we just use standard rivets. You need to make sure that there is plenty of duralac all over anything metal to stop electrolysis. Which happens on any two metals.
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rogue
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 11:14am |
kicker, cunningham and outhaul. I understood those, I think anyway. iirc, the other two are lowers adjusters and forestay adjusters. TBH, short of letting off the forestay on a dead run, I didn't really know or understand the finer details. For an average club racer they certainly weren't all necessary, immediately anyway, and you'd probably be far better to cleat them off on the P&B (Andy Couch/Si Childs) settings and get on with the sailing the race with your head out of the boat.
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Ian29937
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 11:51am |
I believe they are designed not to crush the carbon.....
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Jaws
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 12:19pm |
Will those be ok to use with a pop rivet gun, or does a better system need to be used to avoid cracking the carbon as you rivet it? Do carbon rivets still need anti-electrolysis products?
Thanks
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olly_love
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 12:21pm |
you will struggle with a standard gun and will prob need a sissor gun
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Ruscoe
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 12:22pm |
Carbon rivets are not rivets made of carbon, Ian is quite right they are designed to not crush the carbon fibers. P&B sell them! As for the Phantom the controls will be the 3 obvious ones (kicker, Cunno, outhall) and lowers and rig/forestay. Adjustable lowers were are not always needed, but the idea is in big wind you drop off the forestay and crank on the lowers. Basically you are raking the rig back. In those kinds of winds you are using plenty of kicker so tightening the lowers helps keep the lower part of the mast from distorting under the kicker tension. The Phantom is a powerful boat and is very hard work in big breeze, raking your rig a la above makes things a whole load easier. The rig system above (on James boat) works fantastically well. |
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RS400atC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 12:35pm |
One or two RS600 sailors use a 2:1 halyard, which is legal.
The rest think it's not macho or something. It works a treat, just like on the RS400, RS800 etc etc. Less load on the cleat so no slippage. You can preload the halyard enough so the stretch is taken out, the sail goes right to the top and stays there, even with full cunningham. |
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Jaws
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 12 at 1:01pm |
Does a 2:1 halyard involve the halyard exiting the top the mast, going through the eyelet at the head of the sail (or through a shackle that attaches to the sail) and then terminating at the mast? I've never actually come across one before, although I've often heard them mentioned.
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