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YouGotTheSilver
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Topic: What single-hander to supplement my Wayfarer? Posted: 21 Aug 11 at 9:23pm |
Hello all, I've been lurking around for a while, reading reviews, news and opinions and have been encouraged to seek advice. :) I've been sailing for around 20 years - mainly in an early Mk1 GRP Wayfarer - and with occasional time (helm and crew) on much smaller, lighter, faster boats. Due to the recent arrival of my baby son, family sailing time will be much curtailed / completely brought to a halt for a while. Although the venerable Wayfarer will remain in the family, I'm now looking to take a new direction with my sailing in the form of a performance single-hander. I should probably say that I am 186cm tall and around 84kgs. My hope is that I can turn my okay-ish experience (but also my willingness to learn and to dispense with some of the "cruiser" habits) to a light and fast boat that will really stretch, challenge and perhaps even scare me initially! Light weight is also a real "must" as the Wayfarer has just about finished my back! I'll be sailing almost exclusively inland (predominantly the Lake District) and am unlikely to race initially, so a major class following / scene is less important than a fast, fun boat. This boat will basically be used as and when I can justify time to sail on my own. I also fancy some time out on a trapeze, but that's not the be-all. So far, I really fancy a RS600 but this may be madness? For some reason, I'm not keen on Lasers, but happy to reconsider. I am looking to spend up to £4k but can go further for the right boat (individually or class). Any opinions and suggestions gratefully received! Thanks in advance.
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Mister Nick
Far too distracted from work Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 11 at 9:36pm |
Get a 600. You'll spend countless hours in the drink and wondering what the hell you have bought but at the same time you'll have a lot of fun and you'll become a much better sailor. It'll be like that with any high performance dinghy or skiff to be honest, it's a massive learning curve. I went from sailing a Topper Topaz with my scout group to buying and helming an RS500 and it was huge jump. But it made me a much better sailor and now I'm having a great time with it.
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rb_stretch
Really should get out more Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 11 at 9:40pm |
Obvious choice at your weight and height would be a Phantom. Just what I got when the little ones came along.
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YouGotTheSilver
Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 11 at 9:51pm |
Thanks chaps - much appreciated. I am sorely tempted by the 600 but will now check out the Phantom as well. Following welcome pointers over on Turnturtle.com, my short(ish) list is starting to look like:
1) RS600 2) Contender 3) Phantom 4) Supernova 5) Blaze In no particular order.
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PaulB
Groupie Joined: 15 Nov 10 Location: Sleaford Online Status: Offline Posts: 73 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 11 at 7:05am |
RS Vareo ?
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JimC
Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6648 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 11 at 7:26am |
Go to Ullswater and check out the International Canoes. Its a big challenge but its amazingly rewarding when you finally get there.
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bferry
Posting king Joined: 01 Jun 09 Location: Malta Online Status: Offline Posts: 190 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 11 at 9:48am |
I had to make the same choice around 15 months ago after the birth of my daughter. I've garaged my Miracle for the time being, until she's old enough to sail. I went for the Vareo since it is a mid performance boat with a genny to make things interesting. It can also take additional crew making it quite versatile. OK, so its not an MPS and it you have to hike not dangle off a wire, but its still challenging and really good fun to blast around in. In the Forgot to add; on the Vereo you spend more time sailing that in the water especially if you don't get much time to practice. In my case I don't sail as often as I'd like due to family commitments. However, when I do get to sail, I spend the time sailing rather than swimming. Edited by bferry - 22 Aug 11 at 9:51am |
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Contender443
Really should get out more Joined: 01 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1211 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 11 at 10:45am |
£4k will get you a good Contender. If you are not racing and are sailing without rescue cover in the lake district then the Contender offers a more stable platform than a 600.
There is also more space in a Contender to take a 2nd person out.
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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764
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YouGotTheSilver
Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 11 at 10:48am |
Thanks for these ideas - the Vareo does look interesting. I am drawn to a trapeze just because I like the experience and I find it easier on the legs, but it's not a "must have", and the option to take another person on board is certainly attractive.
Hmmm, this choice might be harder to make than I'd anticipated!
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Rupert
Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 11 at 11:27am |
At 84 kg and £4000, you have the choice of pretty much every boat out there! With a little bit of travelling, it should be possible to try them all. Trouble is, with a baby around, finding the time to try them will be tricky! Certainly worth sailing boats like the 600 before taking the plunge - I decided I like my C of G closer to the bit of the boat that is in the water, and went for a hiking boat - the Lightning, in my case. With all that space, find something you love blasting along on a reach with - the Blaze could be a great choice.
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