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Post Options Post Options   Quote dirtysailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 10 at 9:08am
Originally posted by Phil eltringham

I know assys are a little different, but a 14 friend of mine's approach to tight reaching was hoist first if there was even a chance you could hold it. 


I tend to do this as well, just get it up as you normally would and see how far u can go. You can almost guarantee those in front will freak out and get theres up too to stay in front, and that those behind will put theres up because the boat in front did, and they want to stay in touch.

Going high enough to set it and round the mark works, but is harder to judge and others could be going faster while you waste time doing that
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I'm coming at things from a Fireball perspective, but a lot of this thread seems to be talking about what to do with the kite itself. I usually sail with fairly big crews, so we will often go for the kite when others don't, but if you set the rest of the boat up properly, it's amazing how high you can go. Board right up, cunno/outhaul on hard, kicker eased a very long way, and flatwiring/hiking really hard, and a nice curl on the kite. It may well be for 50% of the leg the main is not driving very much at all, but in the lulls, or if the leg opens up, the speed difference is big between a boat two or three sail reaching. I'd rather have that power in reserve if required than have that whole "gedditupgedditup" half way down the leg, or even a cheeky Aussie drop to get round the mark if required.

Obviously if it's just too tight though, it will be s-l-o-w, and I guess time in the boat, a quick peek at the burgee for the AWA and a look at how other boats are doing (bearing in mind crew weights) is a very good barometer.

And don't forget at the end of the day it's always better for people to say to you in the bar say "where on earth were you boys going in a hail of spray, flogging sailcloth and expletives at Mach 6 on the the second lap…looked fun" instead of "erm, we rolled you when you were both sat in the boat…" Thumbs Up

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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Nov 10 at 10:59am
Of course, you've got to be careful- one luff or two, if you're larding the boat flat carrying a spinnaker very highyou're putting big, often twisting, forces through your rig. One dropped sheet will seriously ruin your day.
 
it will of course have been awesome fun until that point.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote redback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Dec 10 at 8:51pm
Class does matter.  Some of the big asymmetrics just can't be out-musculed, you've got it right or you've got it wrong.  Whereas the symetricals tend to have a smaller kite and you can just hike that bit harder and rescue the situation.
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