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ellistine
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Topic: Start Tactics: How do I not get stuffed? Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:00pm |
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Our little fleet of 4K's have had quite a laugh this
year. Luckily my comparative boat speed has been enough to make up for my lack of sailing experience. If we get a good enough start then we usually keep the lead. However, I'm sensing a change of tactics. It appears we're now having bad starts 'forced' upon us. This usually consists of them being all over us like a rash on the pre-start and luffed up on the start line approach to the point where we stall and then generally spend quite a while in dirty air trying to get moving again. What are the best counter-tactics to make sure you don't have to listen to someone going "up you go Keith, up you go"? |
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ham4sand
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:14pm | |
just avoid that situation by planning ahead during the pre
start manouvers, keep your head out of the boat?? are the other boats also 4000s? or other boats if they are other 4000s look at their rig settings to find how they are out-pointing you... if other boats you may have to just avoid these situations or grin and bear it, then trash them on boatspeed :) |
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John Hamilton
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ellistine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:18pm | |
Yep all 4000s. They don't out point us when sailing but
they do like to use their rights to push us up on the approach to the start line. Creates them a nice gap to bear away into and leaves us ducking the boom trying to stop the bloody thing tacking! |
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ham4sand
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:19pm | |
next race try and be the ones using the rights, always keep
an eye out to leeward and try and perfect holding position |
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John Hamilton
cherub 2645 - cheese before bedtime cherub 3209 - anatidaephobia laser 176847 - kiss this |
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ellistine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:33pm | |
That's what I don't get. I am always trying to get into a
position to do the pushing but always end up getting pushed. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:35pm | |
Be the one doing it to them [grin]. Not something I personally have to think about too much, but its an area covered in most basic racing coaching sessions, see if you can get on a club level course if there's no 4 Tonner coaching available... |
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AlexM
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:44pm | |
are you getting to the line to early? And sitting there like a duck
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ellistine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:49pm | |
Quite possibly. Infact, more than likely. Not a bad point. Presumably keep it moving then? |
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tgruitt
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 3:57pm | |
If the fleet find out you are bad at starting then they will be queuing up to start next to you, it makes it an easy option for them. Just try and find a gap with room below you to bear off into, there can't be that many L4000's on the line. |
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ellistine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 10 at 4:04pm | |
Three, sometimes four 4000's but part of a handicap race so
generally 20 or so other boats. Perhaps I need to work on my timing and approach a bit later and faster. |
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