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    Posted: 05 Oct 09 at 8:25am
my father and i want to start sailing together, i have looked at lots of possible classes and found the 420, combined we weigh about 115 kilos. would that be the best class for us?
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Hi, if you want to try a 420 at Hunts I might be able to help.

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You may find a Laser 2000 might be a better fit for your needs. That and there are several Laser 2000's at Hunts already (the beginnings of a fleet).

This is of course providing you have the money for one as they hold their value very well....

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laser 2000 are realy expensive so i thought i might give that a miss unless i want to be washing the dishes until im 50
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At 115kg, you'd be the right size for a 420, but it is not possible to say whether it would be the best boat for you and your dad.  It is, of course, a youth class which may put your dad off, and old ones tend to go soft and be uncompetitive.  They do, however, tend to come with loads of sails and are a good boat to sail in a way that is out of fashion at the moment.

There's a load of other boats you could try, from a Buzz to a Lark.  It just depends what you want from a boat.

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how about an enterprise
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Hell of alot slower than a 420 put it that way.

What sort of boat are you after?

Fast, slow, stable, dry, wet?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 09 at 9:10pm
An enterprise would be a great choice ofr Hunts - we host an open meeting for them and there are plenty that race as well as cruise.  You can pick them up pretty cheaply too.
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Having sailed a 420 for about 3 years with weights ranging from 110 - 130kgs id say 115kgs would be fine in most wind strengths in my opinion. Of course this depends how much weight is on the wire! (if you're using the wire that is!).

Im presuming you'd be looking at an older one but as mentioned above the older ones do become uncompetative! If you look at nationals results you'll see that very few are below around sail no. 51000ish. You can pick these up relitively cheaply though around that number and they normally have masses of sails too!

When i first started sailing 420s i sailed with my dad and it was pretty good fun! The only thing hard to get to grips with is sailing them slightly off the wind. Also, an enterprise isnt a hell of a lot slower than a 420 at all! It depends on the wind strength, it'd only be a hell of a lot slower in stronger wind...



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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 09 at 7:41pm
Right, now I know who you are I would suggest either something like an Enterpsie, or a GP14 - growing in favour amongst the father/son combos at Hunts - or maybe even a Mirror.  There may well be some Mirror training in the foreseeable future.  Someone else on the same course as your Dad has a Mirror and might be prepared to take you out or let your Dad have a go.

And don't go imagining the Mirror is tame:




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