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Medway Maniac
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Topic: minisail/laser hybrid Posted: 25 Oct 08 at 1:11pm |
Porkyman If you put a ratchet block as the last block on the boom before the sheet comes to your hand the system should be fine for most purposes. The only time it's better to have the ratchet block on the boat as you're suggesting, is when the wind dies and you want to pull yourself into the boat on the sheet - with 'off the boom' and a rear traveller the boom comes towards you instead of you coming into the boat! I'd be surprised if the Minisail mast was stiff enough to get the best out of the Laser mainsail. You might consider cutting off the very bottom part of a Laser mast and sleeving in a length thick-walled but smaller outside diameter tube which will fit within both the hull hole and the Laser mast (you'll need to replace the kicker rivets - use Monel metal ones rather than aluminium). Still, sounds like you've made a big improvement already - well done. |
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Jamie600
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 08 at 10:06am |
Porkyman, I'm afraid I've accidentally deleted your PM would you mind resending it please? Sorry! |
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porkyman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 08 at 10:33am |
well, having borrowed a laser rig, i have dicovered that there is actually very little diffence in the dimensions of the two masts, but unfortunately the laser mast is about 2mm to big to fit in the minisail hull. So what i have done is attach a laser boom to the minisail mast, using a laser gooseneck, which eliminates the biggest prob with the minisail rig, ie the rediculous skinny boom ,and nasty plastic `yoke/gooseneck arrangement, As the laser mast is just a few inches longer than the minisail mast, i have extended it at the top end using a short peice of windsurfer mast.I have bought a nearly new laser replica sail for next to nothing, and it all seems to work extremeley well. I have also attached a laser kicking strap to the bottom of the mast, rather than attaching it to the hull just behind the mast, works much better. I am now thinking about how to attach a ratchet block for the main sheet, by the dagger board, as the original minisail arrangment is that the main sheet comes straight of the boom !!!
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Jamie600
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Oct 08 at 10:54am |
We have a Minisail at our club with a complete Laser rig - sail mast and boom. I didn't take much notice of how it was done but I can have a look next time it's out. I've also got some old Moth wings if you're interested, PM me! |
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porkyman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 7:20pm |
many thanks for your comments, i would be particularly interested to hear from `Diversteve`, as to whether there was any adaption required to make the full laser rig fit the minisail, The idea of wings or a s/seat sounds good, although i am not that bothered if it is abit overpowered, adds to the fun!
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Philsy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 5:15pm |
Nice idea. I had a MS with a sliding seat as a kid, and have happy memories
of it. The sail was a basic triangle and the boom too thin with a nasty gooseneck, so a full Laser rig would make a lot of sense. Be interested to read how you get on. Edited by Philsy |
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DiverSteve
Newbie Joined: 11 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 4:49pm |
I had a Minisail with a full Laser rig for my beach boat. It was ideal because, along with a Topper, it was the only boat that would fit through a barrier at the end of our road. It was light blue and sold to a scout group about four years ago. This was with a Laser mast and boom. In reasonably light winds it was fine but with such a narrow beam I was grossly overpowered in anything stronger. I did wonder at the time about mounting boards to be able to hike out further or even fitting trapeze wires but never got further than thinking about it. |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 4:16pm |
The minisailmain is a little larger than the Laser one, but makes the Laser one seem well cut...It has been done before, but I don't know which mast was used. Easy enough to experiment with borrowed kit.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 2:43pm |
But the sliding seat makes it all worth while...
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Iain C
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 2:38pm |
Might be better to try a Topper main. My other half had a minisail for a bit...it was horrible. Boom was far too bendy too, and the foils were shocking. |
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