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tack'ho
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Topic: Would you have protested? Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 8:38am |
Looking throught the protest descions on the ISAF website it looks like the Spanish, Italians and possibly the USA Claimed for redresss against the race committees descision not to DSQ Deanmark in the final race. Who here would have done the same? The rules are fairly complex from the look of the descision and could have gone either way. For what its worth I don't think I would have. In my mind they were actually at a disadvantage sailing someone else's boat and giving the fleet nearly a 4 min start. I in my mind if I hadn't been able to sail better than them over course of the regatta a victory in the protest room wouldn't make me a better sailor than them, which is why I compete, and would make it me look like a bad loser. |
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Laser 173312
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 8:42am |
Spot on. I totally agree.
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oz man
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 8:45am |
if i am honest with a gold medal at stake i think i would have protested
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laser4000
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 8:50am |
It's a difficult question from a rules perspective. I still think struggle with them not being scored DNS as according to 'Appendix A - scoring a series it's a boat that scores points' BUT given the medal race and if their boat had a damaged mast step..then I can see that they could be given discretion by the jury to use another boat.
I wonder however if /when there boat was 'quarantined' by the jury / protest c'ttee when it came in with the broken mast..now I'm not saying any thing was done to it..but all the cameras / people would be looking out to sea when the medal race was on... As per my previous post ...
Accorind to sailjuice the italian chef de mission needs more medals and is now clutching at straws.. Getitng back to the question posed - would I have protested for an olympic medal - probably...and I would hope that the team 'management' would have enough good grace to accept that its my decision..which I think with GBR would be the case Edited by laser4000 |
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Phil eltringham
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 9:52am |
I think if I'd been in their shoes I'd have protested the race committe, but I'd leave it at that, going to the Arbitration pannel is pointless, it makes a mockery of the whole thing, not just the medal race, or sailing as a whole, but of the Olympics in general, its utterly pointless!! Besides how are a group of lawers who have no knowledge of sailing going to be better at understanding the rules of a sailing event that the people who wrote them?!
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Guest
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 11:55am |
If it was a UK event then no but at the Olympics in their shoes yes; it's their job and a gold medal is a gold medal, people soon forget the details. This will impact future earnings and opportunities; gold is everything. |
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kanga
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 12:08pm |
I think had the gold been won by someone else in the protest room, it would've been meaningless - thats bad sportsmanship in my eyes - I would definetly not want to win it that way.
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oz man
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:35pm |
i wouldnt want to win it that way either but i would still protest
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kanga
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:39pm |
if you didn't want to win, then sure;y you are just denting someone's glory!
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oz man
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Aug 08 at 1:48pm |
what i mean by not wanting to win it that way is id rather go out and win every race and win the medal but if that didnt happen and i needed to take it to protest to win i would. it wouldnt mean i wanted to deny anyone else a medal for the sake of it. as ben showed in his abandoned medal race you have to be a ruthless b**tard at times no ones going to give you an inch and you cant afford to give anyone else an inch otherwise you will lose thats the difference between a club sailor and an olympic gold medalist.
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