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Thermidor - my folks took on a Fireball as their second boat after some meesing about in a tub and loved every minute of it (even sailing in waters infested with Hippos and crocs - literally).  Size and weight wise they were very similar to you.

My sister and I had our first sailing experience wedged into it as well - just incase Kids arrive unannounced...

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Fireballs are easy to sail, but can get very technical

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Originally posted by stuarthop

Fireballs are easy to sail, but can get very technical

While that may be true - and its true of just about any boat - remember its never compulsory to play that game.

The little tweaks and adjustments of the subtlest of controls may well make the difference between 1st and 5th in the Chmpionships. But if you're using the boat as an advances trainer, and your challenge for this season is to get from the bottom 5% of the fleet to mid way up you need virtually none of it.

Just about all of the controls and adjustments except kicker/cunningham/pole height can be lashed up or taped up in a reasonable central position while you concentrate on learning to sail the boat. When you are sailing the boat round the course to within a good shout of the standard of the top of the fleet only then need you worry about subtle tuning, and only then might it actually make any difference to performance compared to just practicing and learning to sail the boat better.

Its hard to believe that the diffeence in boat speed between a boat with decent sails and properly preepped foils but not doing all the adjustments could be more than 5 or 10 points of PY. But the difference between first and last on the water in any championship fleet you care to mention is equivalent to 200 points of PY.

And if, when you get to the stage where the string tweaking might make some significant difference and you decide you don't want to get in that game then you can always change class if you want to... @Course some of us like that too.
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I think you were on the right path in the first place. An ISO or Buzz would be the boat for you! And are both in your price range! The 400 is a great boat for racing in and is a very competitive class! The ISO class is a bit more relaxed and its more fun to sail! 
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Originally posted by stuarthop

a fireball or if you could live without a trapeze a scorpion would be a nice boat

well a hornet is basically a scorpion with a trapeze and i little bit bigger sail area

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You'll probably find a competitive Hornet at a much lower price than either Scorpion or Fireball

Good value and last for ever......

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Didnt think of a hornet they seem to be dying out though or is that just in north wales?

 


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Depending upon how you measure the success of a class, you could say a lot of classes are dying. If you use number of championship entries and number of new boats as your criteria, would you describe the ISO or even L4000 as flourishing classes? Probably not.

But does that matter? If you are looking for a new boat to stretch yourself a little, and are on a limited budget, there are many options including all the Fastsail classes.

For your information according to the Y&Y classes website, the Hornet have been enjoying more numbers at the championships than many of the younger classes for example ISO.

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