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ratface
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Topic: 49er VS laser 5k Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 6:24pm |
here, there and everywhere
just not where i mainly sail right now, i do want the back of the boat at the end of the day... most likely end up being datchet /grafham and the south coast Edited by ratface |
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Smight at BBSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 6:28pm |
Go for the 9er mate just a better boat
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Merlinboy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 6:29pm |
Only a B14 sailor could say something like that!! We could say something similar about hiking, but i wont take the piss because i love b14's |
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Smight at BBSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 7:00pm |
I do have to argree with merlinboy b14s just have somthing about them
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andymck
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 8:59pm |
I have sailed both boats, The 49er is in most conditons the easier boat, due to self tacking and lightness, and spinny shute. Once it gets windier the 49er is harder, you tend to see onoy the better guys out and enjoying it, on the other hand this is when the 5 tonner came into its own, its practically indestructable. As for design, I genuinely believe the 5k is a better all round design, it was just a shame when it came to the build, a load of extra weight was added to make the hull stronger. We certainly used to do very well in the light given the extra rocker it carrries. Oh, and the weight equlaisation worked too. As far as the kite bag is concerned, yes its hard to get used to, but once you have it right as a crew, everything else is easy, esp when you then have the cash to get a decent 49er later on. I have heard of a few nightmare old and cheap 9ers, they are lighter, and hence the hulls dont last as long. One of the 5k guys on the east coast was talking about making a carbon 5k, wih a modern rig on it, now that would be a fun boat to have. The bottom line is the cash, 5ks are cheap. Running costs are cheap. Where as the 49er is a bigger investment, and you will break more stuff. Hope this helps.
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Skiffman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 Nov 07 at 9:32pm |
thats a bit biased!!!!!! The 49er is a better design and boat end of. The 5k is cheap and rock solid. You will find the 49er harder to sail and it will take you longer to master, Even after people had been sailing the 5 tonner for a couple of years they jumped in the 49er and it took years for them to master. Even 3 years after it came out you could sail downwind without the kite when it was windy and gain places. Do that now in the gold fleet and you would be last my miles. sail them both and see what you think |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Nov 07 at 8:18am |
To my way of thinking the 5 Tonner was about the worst boat of it era... And its a dead class, spares will get increasingly harder, you'll struggle to sell the boat on, all the rest of it. If you want a one design get a 49er if you can handle it, if not get an 800.
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Graeme
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Nov 07 at 9:13am |
I agree the class is dead in the water, spares are harder to get, etc. but a bad boat..........? I had my 5k for a number of years, sailed it a lot. It was well built, maybe a bit heavy, but never fell to bits. No trouble selling it either. Struggle to see it as the worst boat of it's era 49'r, fantastic boat but you'll need about £3/4k for the impending rig upgrade
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Fin.
Posting king Joined: 12 Feb 07 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 128 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Nov 07 at 11:59am |
Hi the class is dead in that no new boats are being (will ever again ?) be built, but there is a group of enthusiasts who sail 5000 and race. See class association. Also 5000 can race with TASA and similar organisations if racing is what you're for. Okay - you might be looking for some stiff international/national type of competition - then the 49-er or the RS800 is more suited to your purposes. I have a 5000, but not particularly good sailing the boat. It's still exciting and have enjoyed my first season with it - definitely an exhilerating ride ! I bought because I wanted to sail twin-wire. Alternatives - 800, 49er - are considerably more expensive and I wasn't interested in serious racing anyhow. Other alternatives are the Boss and International 14. The boat is heavy - but solid. The helm is lovely - but sheet loads are fairly high.... it is a big boat: 5m long , 8m mast, 30m2 of spinny! Certain items (rudders, dagger boards) are the same as the Laser4000, so they are still manufactured. Sails can always be made - actually see laser website for spare parts and prices, they list many items. (my mast is only 2-3 years old). Okay - it isn't carbon, it isn't a trendy skiff (a la cherub/12 foot brigade ) but still a serious craft. Rgds fin. PS - I never sailed a 49er - but this was not an issue for me - too expensive for my requirements (fun/blasting, and occasional race).
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Fin.
Posting king Joined: 12 Feb 07 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 128 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Nov 07 at 12:01pm |
'dead' ? ......certainly doesn't feel that way when blasting along at speed!
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