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hurricane
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Topic: New ISAF rule on quick release harnesses. Posted: 26 Nov 04 at 7:43pm |
the other question is will they say to us you must wear your trapeze harness on the outside of your life jacket, because i know i dont!!! and i prefer it that way!! |
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Contender443
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Nov 04 at 7:58am |
Of course there is another option to the QR hook - I do wear my harness over the top of my buoyancy aid - I would prefer to have the option of at least trying to get out of my harness if trapped. |
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Martin Smethers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 04 at 7:22pm |
As yet, there is no definition from ISAF as to what will satisfy the requirements of being a "quick release harness". Until the minutes of the recent meetings are published, we are all playing a guessing game.
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*GM*
Posting king Joined: 19 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 122 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 04 at 9:30pm |
Surely the definition of what is a QR harness should have been included in the rule! |
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redback
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 04 at 9:46pm |
I can't understand this obsession with the hook. Everybody who has done a bit of trapezeing knows where the hook is and clears it automatically when they feel it catching. A much greater danger are all the buckles which some of the harnesses have. I know from experience that a rope can get caught around a buckle and as the boat inverts it drags you under and its no use carrying a knife because you don't have time the find out which buckle, which rope. The answer is the simplest cleanest harness that can be made and these extra quick release pins are just one more thing to get caught.
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hurricane
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Nov 04 at 9:56pm |
these extra pins also can be pulled and thus dropping you into the water and probably leading to a capsize and could put the other sailor in danger!
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john.d.knight
Groupie Joined: 09 Jul 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 42 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Nov 04 at 1:24pm |
After reading all the comments about how dangerous these trapeze harnesses are you may find that, after fox hunting and smoking, trapezing will be next on the banning list for this government.
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Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
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Matt Jackson
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Nov 04 at 5:04pm |
Note that any focus on the hook is because of previous comments here (probably driven by awareness of products already on sale) but the rule doesn't mention hooks. In a Contender (The Ultimate Singlehander by the way) and I assume other single-handed trapeze boats in winds more than F4 it's hard to generate enough speed to tack without being on the wire. So if you have just hacked your harness off or jettisoned the hook you'd have difficulty sailing upwind. The wording is poor as other people have pointed out and I think there is every intention to word it better. For a start I reckon I could get out of my (non QR) harness in about 20 seconds which is pretty quick so there would need more of a definition of quick release! |
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redback
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Nov 04 at 8:09pm |
Now that could be dangerous - I'd rather risk a conventional harness. |
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hurricane
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Nov 04 at 3:42pm |
when will be be banned from going sailing??? and do you think that eventually we will be banned from living? |
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