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hmmm very convincing argument...

you are right if you put your blinkers on:

25*3<100

However the AC Cup has never been about correct maths, it is about history and tradition.It is as high as you can go in match racing.It puts a country on the world stage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Badger brings a health dose of reality to the proceddings.

Despite anyones desire to see GBR compete on the AC stage the reality is we need either a personal or corporate "sugar daddy".

 

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Originally posted by coiler

However the AC Cup has never been about correct maths, it is about history and tradition.It is as high as you can go in match racing.It puts a country on the world stage.

Which might be good reasons for a patriotic billionaire with a passion for sailing to stump up the cash, but as Badger said, no reason at all for the marketing director of a multinational company to do so. 95% of the public don't know about match racing and wouldn't care even if they did know. Look at how the syndicates that are out there are being funded.

The only grand-prix type sailing that stands a chance of corporate funding is where it is 1. adventure-based so the public can understand it and 2. linked to a strong personality who is willing and able to project themselves to the public, with all that implies. For example, Ellen MacArthur.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote badger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 04 at 10:31am
Originally posted by coiler

hmmm very convincing argument...

you are right if you put your blinkers on:

25*3<100

However the AC Cup has never been about correct maths, it is about history and tradition.It is as high as you can go in match racing.It puts a country on the world stage.

25*3 does indeed = 75. Now add the original 25 investment and you get to 100.

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Hmmm just joined this one & there are obviously some very strong feelings here.

My gut feeling (may be a naive view but I think there may be others who feel the same):

1. The "Auld Mug" is steeped in history & the thought that one day it might just grace these shores is indeed a wonderful one

2. I agree it's a huge shame that we are not be be represented at the LVC

3. The thought of any government offering even limited funding to such a venture is to my mind outrageous. There are far better ways of spending our very limited resources than to help a few billionaires play with their toys. To my mind, it does nothing to encourage youngsters into the sport, in fact quite the opposite with the likes of Bertarelli & Co flaunting their huge wallets and (even bigger?) ego's.

4. Money is not the issue here. There are enough wealthy businessmen in this country to fund a sucessful campaign, even at the highest level. What is lacking is the desire to do so, presumably engendered by the limited exposure offered by the AC. It is simply not a cost effective exercise. Why should a government be asked to pour our money down the same drain?

5. Maybe it is time for a rethink on the type of boat and the racing format. "Pinnacle of Yachting" it may be, but it has little or no visual appeal. The AC formula has produced a bunch of highly esoteric, ludicrously fragile and obscenely expensive boats that are good for nothing after their very short useful lives. Not only that, but they are hardly the fastest creaft on the planet even after the application of liberal doses of cash!

Lets have some spectacle, and just maybe the sponsorship will follow! Motor racing has the same proble with F1 - hugely expensive, limited to the elite and boring as hell!

Signed, Devil's Advocate.......  

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Its interesting that, at present I am reading the book about Claire Francis' Whitbread campaign, and she is currently discussing her sponsorship.  Surely the boat in question can fund herself through sponsorship/ Corperate charter etc etc.  Would it maybe be an idea also for the 'woods to support the trees' and maybe its the duty of the RYS (royal yacht squadron) or the RORC (royal ocean racing club) to realise the importance of her entry in the AC, and its relevance to the history and tradition of the (once round the isle of wight) 'Americas' cup.  Im sure thease powerful and well repected bodies could do some networking with astonishing affect.

Maybe not, what do u think?

Maybe we should bring the AC home and hold it back in good old blighty once more?????

 

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