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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 04 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by Phil eltringham

Can you imagine if the letter of this was followed at a sailing school and you were sent to prison for every capsise practice session .  Team and match racing would be practiacally illegal as well .  

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Also, will this apply to inland waters?

 

Just report every one !  Set up a pro-forma on the PC and print of 100 copies at the start of the day

 

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Date

Time

Nature of incident (delete as applicable) capsize/mark hit/collision/etc...

and send them on.... 

Run a decent training weeken I think you might generate 1000 if you try hard enough......

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 04 at 8:18pm

well done the rya for givin the gov a rap for bypassin them

"The RYA’s view on the Regulations is that they will not contribute towards safety but will merely place an unnecessary and unjustified burden on the boater."

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Post Options Post Options   Quote hurricane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 04 at 10:25pm
i personly think we should go along with the rules and report each capsize and other incident just to annoy them and see how long it takes for this rule to be reversed for small boats!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jon Emmett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 9:34am

Scooby_Simon I do not think you can call it a 'decent training weekend' if you have 1000 incidents!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote catmandoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 11:07am

What a load of governmental *rse. I spoke to RYA a couple of months ago re this and was told an "under" had changed into an intended "over" (or vice versa )when referring to vessel at lenght 30 m this mistake in wording led to the inclusion of all "boats"

I hope whoever did this gets a firm kick up the bahooky for wasting time and tax payers money .

But untill it's resolved :

Is the act inforce now ?

How do we report ?

Who do we report to?

Are they even going to tell us ? or just start collecting fines and impounding boats for non payment .

I phoned the MCA (Maritime Coastguard Agency) regarding this for clarification today.

 

Gues what ? they're on strike and not answering phones !!!! I expect at the deluge of work they will get if the act is enforced to the letter !

 

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by Jon Emmett

Scooby_Simon I do not think you can call it a 'decent training weekend' if you have 1000 incidents!!!

Jon

 

Dis-agree... 

100 boats - so that's 100 capsize practices

short tight course racing, how many marks will get touched ?

ditto (MINOR) collissions - espically if there is little wind....

 

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 1:28pm
The tide ride would never happen again if this goes through.  Crash and burn has never been so apt!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JonnyC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 2:39pm

Yep sounds ridiculous but ...

... a friend who knows about such things told me the following. 

Since this is an MSC resolution it should only apply to vessels which fall under their jurisdiction, i.e. the so-called "convention vessels". Amateur sailing boats don't fall in this category and so aren't subject to the rules.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 5:16pm
ooooooohhhh, you ruined the fun!!!!! lol.
so does that mean it doesn't occur to us then??
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 405man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 04 at 6:20pm

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     The 405man has the answer: just do what u wan't, we rule the waves, we do what we like for fun and ill be damned if the big blair man wants to try and tell us, otherwise i may have to impale him with me bowsprit! well lets see him right a capsise anyway, i bet he couldn't tell the front of a boat from a dead albatross, fool!!!!!!!!!!



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why are laser top masts so rubbish?
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