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HannahJ 
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 Topic: yet another what boat...Posted: 21 Feb 07 at 8:09pm |
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Apart from the fact that I'm not in wales...
 Keep the ideas coming, it's very interesting. |
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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 21 Feb 07 at 9:03pm |
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Why didn't we mention a Tasar? Because Hannah wants a spinnaker? Because Bethwaite himself says that the Tasar needs a minimum racing crew weight of 130kg and we tend to assume that a young Mirror sailor and crew is probably appreciably under that? Because Hannah sails inland on a relatively small pond and Tasars are not really very good on PY in light airs - at least I've only seen one come near winning sailed by two men on a windy fetch. Is there much of a Tasar youth scene? Or even a scene at all near to London where Hannah sails? |
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HannahJ
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Posted: 21 Feb 07 at 9:57pm |
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First, the firefly and n12 have been mentioned, both wihout spinnakers, but that dpesnt matter. Second, reckon i could get up to about 110kgs, possibly 115 depending on crew. Keep em coming
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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
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combat wombat
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Posted: 23 Feb 07 at 8:10pm |
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Or drive down the road to King George SC and sail whatever the hell you like on bigger water that isn't shifty as hell.
Lark requires a bit of weight on board, probably not for you. Firefly is simply beautiful to sail. It has to be the RS200 (although it doesn't really have a spinnaker, more a hankerchief!). Best idea is get a bigger crew, eat more and then the choices are pretty much endless! |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 23 Feb 07 at 8:45pm |
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On their site, the Larks claim: "The class is suited to a wide range of crew weights, typically from 18 stone up to 25 stone." We have a couple of very light girls (certainly sub-18 stone all-up) locally who go pretty fast. But come on you Larks, defend yourselves - I've never even owned one!
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HannahJ
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Posted: 23 Feb 07 at 9:01pm |
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RS200 is expensiveeo though
 But after today, the Mirror is staying  |
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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
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Villan
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Posted: 23 Feb 07 at 9:38pm |
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ok .. what happened??
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HannahJ
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Posted: 24 Feb 07 at 4:54pm |
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lots of wind, small light crew, safety boat obligingly making nice waves...
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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
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Holly
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Posted: 24 Feb 07 at 8:35pm |
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I've owned a National 12, an RS200 and am now helming a Lark that Medway Maniac has mentioned on several occasions.
The 12 is very tweaky and really has to be sailed on the circuit, plus being a development class unless you, (or Daddy!) is prepared to spend spend spend then the boat won't perform so well on handicap. Also, there is not very much of a youth following with the 12s. The RS200 was great with its wee assymetric kite and we're pretty diddy like you (sub 110kgs). It performed excellently in light airs, which I presume you'll have a lot of. However, if GP's are the class most commonly sailed then you might find sailing symmetrical courses in an assymetric a pain! But there are lots of youths in 200s. We've only had the Lark out a couple of times but its great. The symmetrical kite will allow you to sail against the GP's easily. Similarly, you will undoubtedly kick ass in the light stuff but be prepared to hike hard when it blows! There is a v friendly circuit with lots of females but not so many youth teams. Good luck and happy boat hunting... Edited by Holly |
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damp_freddie
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Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 7:40pm |
The tasar takes a range of wieghts and with 170kg we were mixing it with RS400s in the light airs...the lark being at 1073, tasar 1023, RS200 in between. Without the hassle and cost of a spinnaker you get a boat which is faster than the RS200 and the 420. Also if it is a bit of a puddle you sail on, then the simple jib pole (which is pretty long!) will help you concentrate on tactics and wind rather than hoists and drops. Lugging around a lark at 95kg will be tough compared to a tasar at 66kg??, with the rs200 at about 82kg for comparison. The tasar is simple to sail but take some time to master planing upwind and getting the best out of the sail shape from both sails- the crew has nine controls while the helm has three! So there is plenty to learn at the ffront as well. The light, plane all directions design will prepare you well for moving to the 420 or 29er which of course have a wide youth scene for later. You will learn to keep the boat under the rig and steer for balance in a light , super responsive boat, definetly needed for later higher performance boats like the 29er and whatever the next womens olympic boat actually will be.
I think the jump from a mirror to the 29er is pretty far, with a faster hiking boat being needed in between. Maybe a 19er with trap option! (you could look at the topper topaz hull/rig options I suppose!) Tasars in racing condition can be had at less than a grand and your folks can pop on the roof to take one home if they have an estate car. .
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