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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Oct 04 at 3:44pm
seems fair enough to me, if the class decided it then it must have been by acceptance of the membership.  If owners dont want to have to diet than they should pick a different class (or a lighter crew) , sounds harsh but its not as if its a secret untill after they join. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote *GM* Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Oct 04 at 7:43pm

Originally posted by Gael

Your answer brys is to have a girl on the boat...

So which of his two sons is going to have the op then?

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hahaha, girls soooooooo rule!! see you guys can't live with out us!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 04 at 9:52am
You telling me girls could survive without men?   First spider in the bath/resiliant jam jar lid and things would all change
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gael Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 04 at 11:15am
Guys are scared of spiders too - but life would be boring without the
amusement of watching a macho male pretend he isn't.


But moving back to some sort of a sailing theme - I would pick a mixed
crew over an all girl one any day.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 04 at 5:38pm
yeah defiantly, i didnt say i wouldn't. works well! seeing as this topic mentions SB3's alot, were any of you guys at the nationals at mersea??
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After reading the opinions here there are many points needed to be made:

1)  A weight limit is a method to equalize racing.  No more, no less.

2)  There are many ways to get close to the limit regardless of your own build.  Think of using a teenager to bring you up to weight if too light.  If an 80kg adult takes you 15kg over the limit, talk to the lads about their diet

3)  Lack of a limit opens the door to tailoring your crew for big breezes.  This can result in people being sent home on lighter air days

I race where my limit is 820 kg, which is supposed to equate to 10 people each around 82kg.  Well my crew has several people who are lightweights (including the bowman) which often allows us to race with 11.  My job is to max out crew weight because EVERYONE knows that weight on the rail is better than being light downwind.  This is true for all racing in 8 knots or above.

Before our weight limits were introduced several boats in the 10 metre range regularly showed up to race on windy days with 14 or 15 people aboard.  Those who only had 8 or 9 might have well just gone home.  THIS is why we have weight limits.

And with regards to the 'flogging sails' comment, how about a flatter mainsail for bigger breezes?        

 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Adoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 04 at 2:21pm

The Swan 45 Gold Cup (aka Worlds) in Capri had strict weighins throughout the event. I was wrong in my earlier comment, about no weigh in at the start of the event - there was a weigh in the morning of the practice race, and then ychts were selected throughout the event to weigh in the next day. A notice would be posted at 3pm on the board that "... the following boats..." must weigh in before 0830 the next morning.

We felt this was a good system - no unhealthy dipping, no huge bgs of doughnuts arriving post weigh in, and all of the crew weights, at the start, and after their final weigh in were posted, along with the change in weight.

Interestingly some crews lost weight, while other crews gained weight through the event.

Better to be overpowered in the gusts than underpowered in the lulls!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blobby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 04 at 5:13am

Maybe a glance at the Tasar weight rule would be a thought...

Tasar's have a MINIMUM crew weight rule to overcome the problem of over keen, over athletic Youth Squad sailors cleaning up in the class.  The rule goes along the lines of "The minimum crew weight is 135Kg.  If you weigh less than this you are welcome to sail with us but you must carry corrector weights equivalent to the difference."

Maybe the keelboats could say the same thing but you have to wear helium ballons equivalent to the difference in weight...

No only would the weight equal out but you could guarantee a few laughs in the bar later with the helium...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blobby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 04 at 5:30am
More seriously - why not just add a weight track to the boat - attach lead equivalent to the excess weight to a car on the weight track - when the boat heels the lead automatically goes downhill and negates any benefit of the excess lard on the rail...
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