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Sam.Spoons
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Topic: Oh the righteous Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 4:30pm |
Fair comment, I guess SMOD classes range from those with an active CA and involved designer (who are closer to an old style 'one design' class like the Firefly) at one end of the spectrum to those entirely controlled by the builder at the other. It is the latter type to whom I was referring above.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 7:28pm |
Is it true the composite top section is 600g lighter than the ally?
If so, how is that fair competition. |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 7:58pm |
I read this a lot about Laser sails not lasting, the ones at my club seem to last more than a couple of months, mind only two out of a dozen have XD controls, but they still seem ok after a couple of seasons, is it circuit racing ?
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 9:03pm |
I think the general consensus is that they lose there edge after a couple of hard regattas. For the average club sailor the 2% difference between a box fresh sail and one that has had a few weeks use is pretty irrelevant, miss one shift and you've dropped more than that, but for the top guys who are all within a couple of percent of each other a new boat every year and a new sale every regatta makes the difference between winning and losing (in their mind at least).
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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Paramedic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 9:07pm |
^^What he said^^
but how many are using genuine sails? (I must add I don't actually have a massive problem with people using non-class sails in club racing provided the club authorise it and its handicap racing)
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 9:10pm |
Presumably a conspiracy theorist would consider it to be a rumour started by Laser Performance in order to shift lots more sails...
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ian.r.mcdonald
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 9:25pm |
I understand many of the cheaper capsule coffee machines are sold at a very tight margin, hook the punters in and make mega margin on the capsules.
The Laser model seems similar! |
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 9:44pm |
I haven't noticed any copies, only one I know for certain is the rooster sail, but only used once owner didn't like it.
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ian.r.mcdonald
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 17 at 9:54pm |
as effective and 75% cheaper would convince me
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davidyacht
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Dec 17 at 9:25am |
Or printers ... where the manufacturers chip the cartridges and suggest your warranty will be invalidated by using non-OEM products.
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