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    Posted: 15 Feb 18 at 7:00am
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Why?  What benefit does 'bringing sailing into the public eye' have for those people who participate in sailing?
Originally posted by PeterG

Does current TV coverage make people more likely to take part? 
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The RYA has stats, which fully back up the figures my SC have of membership and participation peaking in Olympic years, with a slow drift-down during each Olympic cycle, so there does appear to be a benefit to the sport.
Thanks.  Good answer to the questions posed.  Agrees with observations I had years ago about junior cricket and Ashes years.

I'm still not sure whether tinkering with the game and equipment at the highest levels, thus spoiling it for the average club racer, is worth the exposure gains and the unquantified exposure and possible increased participation gains.
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Well I LOVE watching racing on TV, and the Sailing World Cup weekends have me tuned in to YouTube for the Medal Races.
The RYA has stats, which fully back up the figures my SC have of membership and participation peaking in Olympic years, with a slow drift-down during each Olympic cycle, so there does appear to be a benefit to the sport.
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Would the decline across all sports be more pronounced without coverage?

Or would it be less? Perhaps if there was less sport on TV people would get off their couches and take part more  Tongue
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Politics aside. That would be the implied title of the string. 

However we have now drifted to TV coverage.

Following team GBR every four years. No not really, too infrequent and hardly a team, more a collection of individuals.

I don't think we should be interested in people watching racing as it is too remote, boring and difficult to get an immediate feel of how people are doing for all but people who already sail.

Now sailing that is completely different tale, messing about water is so much more relatable.  


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Originally posted by Do Different

Politics aside. I am not sure how much TV coverage can contribute to sailing.
Politics how?
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According to psychologists viewers enjoy watching sport for a few reasons.

There is the tribal connection of supporting and taking the reflected glory of a winning team. Not really applicable to sailing.
Coming back to Olympics, don't you think following Team GBR counts, particularly at the London Games?
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If the viewer has taken part in the sport themselves then when watching it they experience the same sensations as if they were doing it. Only applicable to existing sailors and probably a stretch too far for most to truly get much from watching foiling Acs.
Still doesn't answer why we should be interested in people enjoying watching sailing


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Politics aside. I am not sure how much TV coverage can contribute to sailing.

According to psychologists viewers enjoy watching sport for a few reasons.

There is the tribal connection of supporting and taking the reflected glory of a winning team. Not really applicable to sailing.

If the viewer has taken part in the sport themselves then when watching it they experience the same sensations as if they were doing it. Only applicable to existing sailors and probably a stretch too far for most to truly get much from watching foiling Acs.



  


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I do wonder whether the increasing gap between the amateur game and the professional game does not help the growth of sports, not just sailing.

Back in the day as a 18 year old good club sailor, you could still see a route to the top of the game, be it Olympics, Admirals Cup or America’s Cup.

In particular there were successful mavericks.

Now, unless you have participated in the squad systems from an early age, that particular horse has bolted.

Media presentation of the sport was across the board, the Telegraph, Times and Guardian all had correspondents who turned up to the major chamionships and WOW ... it was all very aspirational.

Now I cannot see how the AC relates to what we do, except that the boats are wind powered.  The Olympics are far removed with a dumbed down format for TV.
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Sport participation across the board is declining,  their is more sport on tv now than ever, so perhaps sailing on tv won't help ? Would the decline across all sports be more pronounced without coverage?

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I'll spend an hour participating in a race whenever I can(would be this morning, but full of cold) but it has to be something pretty special to get me watching sailing on screen for an hour. But I watched the Ireland rugby match yesterday, which, barring the last 5 seconds, wasn't very special at all. Some sports are better on telly than others, I guess.
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Please don't think me obtuse, but Why?  What benefit does 'bringing sailing into the public eye' have for those people who participate in sailing?

IF sailors were worried about falling participation and IF watching things like AC and Olympics coverage encourage people to take it up themselves then there would be a benefit.

While the first IF is true for many, I'm a lot more doubtful about the second. Does current TV coverage make people more likely to take part? I fear not. In general I'm not at all convinced that sports coverage is generally seen as having anything to do with what you do yourself - it's just another form of reality entertainment for most.

I do think good TV coverage would be of real interest to existing sailors but I often/generally find the quality of the editing of what's shown and the commentary is aimed at spectacle intead of informed coverage and comment.
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