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It's rather amusing that after all the hype about the Grand Prix 18 Footer series, that report says "sailing has usually been considered more a leisurely pastime than a spectator sport".

That's in a city that has an ORMA 60, about five 100' supermaxi canters, even more TP52s, regular fleets of about 20 18s, 20 12 Foot Skiffs, 50+ 16 Foot Skiffs, the world's biggest or second-biggest Moth fleet, and dozens of Cherubs, 9ers, B14s etc.

If you can have that many spectacular boats on the water, years of live 18 Footer racing, live coverage of the Hobart etc and STILL the media says sailing isn't a spectator sport then what does it say for televised sailing and what the media says about the sport?


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It says exactly what any media outlet says everyday of the week. Yesterday was old, tomorrow is new. News media, all media, sells tomorrow. We all crave the next thing. And it doesn't matter if it isn't. Corporate sponsors will spend where they will get the most coverage. If the media see something as tomorrow's world it will cover it, and to create contrast, embellish the distance between the incumbent. That's why I think the 18's might be in trouble.
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Yep, the mass media is fickle - so strategies that rely on them to sell a sport are dubious.
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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

 (Low Budget - back in the days of TOOHEYS Ripper Replay, the coverage wasn't so low budget was it.

That was a different organisation with different boats, different sailors and a completely different model.  At that time the League (which is what we see now) was still quietly going about its Sunday afternoon racing on the harbour.  The fact that it has survived (flourished even) whilst the high-profile commercial travelling circus collapsed speaks volumes.

When I sailed the JJ in '95 the GP circus was also holding a round of their series on the harbour.  The bad blood between the two organisations was quite extreme at that time.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Dec 17 at 10:58am
I understand what you were referring to now. For brevity I was treating the 18's collectively which was probably a bad idea. 

But did the League flourished because of, or despite of the Grand Prix.



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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

For brevity I was treating the 18's collectively which was probably a bad idea.

Definitely. The 18footer politics and history is enormously complicated, and if you're not local you probably can't gain sufficient insight to understand it, and if you are local you'll probably have so much history and emotion tied up in all the issues you probably won't be able to manage a rational neutral viewpoint...
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