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Finn will be way more suitable

Much more comfortable, easier on the knees, a joy to sail in all winds, rigs to suit your ability/physique, easier to tack (boom just rises up and lots of cockpit depth) etc etc etc

I've had both and enjoyed them both but would strongly suggest the Finn for you

They rarely capsize
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Hi ever considered a Hartley 12 they are classed as 3 persons but two is much better, if you get the main with vertical battens you can reef it by rotating the mast if needed, also comes with head sail, faster than you may think and very safe.
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If your budget wont stretch to Finn money what about a Laser with a Rooster 8.1 rig ?

They are not great but are cheap and fun. Same handicap as a Finn

Shame that Rooster didn't push it as a class or organise anything but the occasional mickey mouse river event



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Love the laser and in most winds the standard rig is fine. As I said in the OP, my problem is getting under the boom as my knees get older.

One hull good, two hulls better.
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Got to be the Finn then

Classic Finn with modern rig on Apollo Duck for just over 2K OR more recent one for 3.5 ?

OR buy a newer boat which will hold its value.

Whilst the initial outlay is a lot they hold their value really well

Always lots of 2nd hand bits around if you want to upgrade

Take the plunge - you will get addicted.
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Originally posted by snowleopard

Love the laser and in most winds the standard rig is fine. As I said in the OP, my problem is getting under the boom as my knees get older.

I know the problem of the old knees only too well and the bloody boom, I used to sail a Topper Topaz Uno but changed to a Hartley 12 (custom rigged) which has a slightly higher boom and is slightly wider than the Topaz hence giving more room to spread the old legs out, suggest try one if you can you might be in for a pleasant surprise


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Interesting point there. Most modern dinghies have a wide scoop and narrow side decks so that in a light wind with a heavy crew one is forced to perch somewhere in the middle which is very hard on old knees. I was once forced to spend a day sailing a Pico and it was torture. I was far too heavy to sit on the edge so had to kneel in the middle and lean. 

The Laser 1 is good in that regard, as is the classic Finn hull
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Originally posted by snowleopard


Originally posted by iGRF

big old rig, that Finn sail is probably two thirds the size.†

A bit unfair...
Finn 10.6 sq m
Phantom 9.75 sq m
Next question, which is more likely to give me a swim? In my laser days I only ever capsized through losing my grip on the sheet and being dumped to windward.


Hi Snowleopard,

I recognise you from th YBW forums. Finn and Phantom are the boats to consider. Phantom sail is closer to 11m in reality. I sail one myself at 15.5 stones. Old Phantoms donít have double skinned floors so have a deep cockpit, but come with lots of other compromises due to non-epoxy construction. You can get a modern deep cockpit from JJ boats, but few around so much harder to find. Much faster than a Finn, but by all accounts Finns are also lovely to sail. Best to try both out and see what suits best.

If you donít want to race that much then a megabyte is another option.
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Megabyte looks a good option but they seem to be rare this side of the Atlantic.
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