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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gordon 1430 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 7:37am
As on the other list no big person single hander. I currently own a 400 which is a bit of an old banger but would keep my Phantom to sail at Open meetings or have to join a separate club to race that. Twice as many duties to do, so could end up selling the 400 and moving club.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote PeterG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 8:38am
The final answer would depend for me on the classes picked by the club (I saw your list and I could find something there I could sail - I already have one)

However, my first likely response would be to change to an agreed class - if that was the way things went. When I moved to my current club I changed my main boat radically, not because the club has restricted classes, but because the main class I now sail is the one where I'm guaranteed good competitive fleet racing. That's far more important to me than the details of the boat I sail. To nick someone else's tag line the only real dinghy racing is fleet racing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 10:05am
Originally posted by RS400atC


It would be nice to have a 2-hander on the list where you can get on the water for under a grand though.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gordon 1430 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 10:55am
Apollo duck has a 400 for under a grand.
I think under 2k is a reasonable  wish and I bought my 400 for 1500 although I have spent some money on it since.
Still think you need a big peoples toy after all according to statistics are people not getting slowly taller and heavier.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote patj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 17 at 1:25pm
It would be the death of our club and many others if they prescribed that list - only about half a dozen Lasers would be left as even the last Solo has just moved house to far away. Asymmetric kites simply don't work well on the little puddles and ditches of Britain. Albacores are the biggest fleet (all four of us) of double handers at our club, the rest is a handicap medley of generally older boats and it's allowing that mix that keeps the club alive.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GybeFunny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 17 at 1:58pm
Having been a member in the past of such a club (Wembley SC) I would have no issue changing class to one of the adopted classes if my current club were to implement such a policy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MerlinMags Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 17 at 12:16pm
I need a option in the poll for "Moan a lot and then go for the cheapest option".

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2547 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 17 at 12:26pm
What is interesting is a club is really a group of people who like to do stuff together ...

So ... it would seem if that group changed a rule many people would leave the group.

Seems odd that people are more wedded to their particular class than their group of friends.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mozzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 17 at 1:40pm
I'd always sail whatever class the local fleet was. 

I can appreciate a nice boat, but at the end of the day, no sail boats are seriously quick. Long term enjoyment, for me, comes from competitive racing. 

Having said that, having non-approved boat does add to a club. It brings new people new classes forward, and I don't think we should be resistant to change.

My gripe is when 'non-fleet' racing is held to the detriment of fleet racing for the sake of being inclusive. 

My ideal club would be one with a couple of single handers and a couple of double handers. All fleets getting more racers than there are support crew (race team and safety) would get their own start and choice of course. Then one 'menagerie' fleet. Menagerie fleet would always start last and always sail a simple course, there would be no results for them. The menagerie fleet would give opportunity for new fleets to build until they reach a critical mass where the club can give them their own start.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 17 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by mozzy

...new fleets to build until they reach a critical mass

There doesn't seem to be a critical mass...

My observation is that its every bit as hard if not harder to maintain class racing in a club as it is to introduce it. If folk valued fleet racing then there would indeed be a critical mass, and once a fleet got to a reasonable size it would grow itself, or at least maintain, but it doesn't seem to be like that. It seems to take a keen organiser to set up a new fleet, and if that keen organiser moves on for any reason, then unless another turns up the fleet will most likely fade away again.


Edited by JimC - 09 Oct 17 at 3:10pm
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