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tomjv
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 17 Location: somers,ny Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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Topic: Argo vs Quest? Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 11:09pm |
Here's my question:
What's a better boat for me, the Topaz Argo or RS Quest? Ok, I know I just said a MOUTHFULL! Me and my needs: I want a boat for my lake house <15' so I can store it in-doors. I'm 56 (&wife) and we will sail 75% of the time together, 25% me alone. I'm a brand new sailor. Bought a Zuma and LOVE it, but it's too small for my old knees and back LOL. I can "do it", but I can't tolerate the cramped conditions for long. We will never race, but we want something with some zip and somewhat stable. (really? ahahaha) I liked the Bahia until I saw video of it running with spinnaker and it looked like a cow! We will sail on lakes only(decent size, say 6000 acres)up in Maine. We're gonna trailer and ramp launch. I definitely want a jib and spinnaker, but don't care about a trap. I don't want a motor or oars. A small dry storage area would be cool. I've narrowed my search down to these two boats largely due to size and function. I'm going to RI next week to demo the RS. It looks like a fine boat, but I'm stuck on the Argo for some reason. I like that huge AL thwart for one thing. The boom looks more sturdy for another. It's also 50# lighter than the Quest. Does anyone actually OWN these boats? Where do they blog? TomJV |
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Daniel Holman
Really should get out more Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 6:33pm |
Hi Tom.
If you're going to Zim in Rhode Island you should also check out the Hartley 15. May just about fit inside your boat house!! Dan |
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Neptune
Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1313 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 8:36pm |
6000 acres, that's 2 times the size of Windermere, the largest fresh water lake in England. No idea about either boat, but I'm jealous of your sailing area
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tomjv
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 17 Location: somers,ny Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 11:21pm |
Funny how things work out sometimes ... I was at sis's house in Westport CT yesterday installing a shelf. I got done early and thought, I'll go talk to the RS guy the next town up I95. I did a quick google search and wound up at Westport town dock instead. They have a fleet of ~16 Hunter 140s that are about 10yo and they will be SELLING!
I arrived and found the staff buttoning up the marina for the winter. I couldn't sail, but I had an opportunity to check out that boat. Very nice boat. Certainly, it would be fine to leave at the camp in Maine. Still, it's for ME and I'd like something NEW, COOL and NICE. The Hunter is a big tub LOL. One of the staff guys spoke to me for 20 min. He related that they're rented ALL day, ALL summer and they are basically bullet proof. They weigh a ton, I think. The cockpit is spacious, but not especially deep. He also said, PARTS are a problem and that's why they're turning them over. Keep in mind it's We$tport. It's a small world! Turns out they're dealing with the same guy I am with the RS and they're gonna buy like 32 boats from him, and GUESS what boat? . . . RS Quest. I called him and gave him a "heads up" thinking maybe they'd like to go to RI next week. He was happy, but had it covered. That's all for now. I'm psyched for RI. Hopefully the next storm after Jose doesn't screw things up. TomJV |
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tomjv
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 17 Location: somers,ny Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 11:32pm |
Rangeley Lakes, Maine
We stay on Dodge Pond. It's "only" 215 acres LOL. It's a nice sailing lake, but the wind fluctuates with the mountains etc. It's great for my Zuma. The surrounding lakes are: Rangeley Lake Mooselookmeguntic (yes, really!) Lake (10min) Cupsuptic Lake (10min) Flagstaff Lake (20min) Upper Richardson Lake (20min) Lower Richardson Lake (ditto, via upper RL) Aziscohos Lake (20 min) Web Lake (45 min) These lakes are all close by, all HUGE. Don't get too jealous though, they can get really windy/wavy really FAST! I've been out in my 18' deep V powerboat almost swamped! On the right day, at the right time though, things are wonderful ; ) TomJV |
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Neptune
Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1313 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 17 at 1:07pm |
Even more jealous now
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tomjv
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 17 Location: somers,ny Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 17 at 4:08pm |
Ha! I pulled the trigger on a 2017 Argo Sport!
Got it from EastCoastSailboats, Hardy Peters, should be delivered this weekend. Too bad it's FREEZIN' OUT up here. LOL Got a decent black Friday deal. TomJV |
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tomjv
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 17 Location: somers,ny Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 17 at 4:30pm |
If anyone cares, WHY I went Argo over Quest.
A few reasons. Admittedly, I never sailed it, so I'm taking a chance. I sailed the Quest though, and it seemed fine. It struck me as a bit slow in the water. First, I narrowed my search to these two boats for a couple of reasons. I needed something less than 15' for storage reasons. I wanted something sporty. I wanted new or nearly so. I wanted something either 1 or two handed. I wanted the spinnaker. 1. Construction - I don't like the idea of the Quest's optional $6XX foredeck. The Argo foredeck is an integral part of the hull, most likely making it both lighter and stronger. I liked the look of the Argo thwart better too. The Argo hull is 50# lighter than Quest(without the 30# optional foredeck!) The Argo has greater sail area than Quest. 2. Style - I just liked the look of the Argo from day one. I couldn't get myself to warm up to the Quest. The green is awful. 3. Awards - The Argo is recognized by Sailing world as 2015 dinghy of the year. "I got that going for me . . ." 4.Advice - I spoke to one person who sailed both, back-to-back first in light winds, then in moderate winds. Hands down she preferred the Argo citing its stability as superior to the Quest. 5. Price - Both boats came in remarkably close in price. The Quest was cheaper, but once I added the spinnaker and foredeck they balanced out. In fact, the Argo was actually a couple hundred cheaper which paid for half the shipping to my door. |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 17 at 6:10pm |
Having sailed the Argo recently and enjoyed it, I think you'll have fun. Congratulations!
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tomjv
Newbie Joined: 27 Aug 17 Location: somers,ny Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 17 at 2:42pm |
Thanks! I'm pretty psyched.
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