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Tynesider
Newbie Joined: 19 Aug 17 Location: Shropshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 27 |
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Topic: What's next for me? Posted: 25 Aug 17 at 8:46pm |
Bet you have not thought of a Hartley 12, I tried many boats and nearly went for a Topper Topaz but its way outclassed by the Hartley 12 which is wider and very forgiving and very much a wolf in sheeps clothing.
The Hartley 12 sails very well with just the main up but a jib sail can be also added, then with more experience you can add the Asymmetric spinnaker They are classed for 3 but I thinks that's wishful thinking but two is fine, but best as I do sail it single handed Good luck
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iGRF
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6496 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Aug 17 at 6:50pm |
Is this not a clear case for the class that dare not speak it's name? Where's tick?
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Ocashell
Newbie Joined: 23 Aug 17 Location: Southwold, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Aug 17 at 6:26am |
Thanks guys, I'll think about it.
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Do Different
Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 7:36pm |
It is only natural to focus on the boats and progressing; we all do it.
BUT Southwold is a fantastic venue with constantly varying conditions both up river, in the harbour mouth and out at sea. Don't get too hung up on what you are sailing, whatever is under you you will learn as much from time spent on those waters as any boat will teach you. Two of the instructors there I know of are very experienced sailors so you should be able to get excellent home guidance.
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Eisvogel
Posting king Joined: 09 Dec 16 Location: Birmingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 135 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 4:55pm |
Yes -- the 4.7, radial, and full rig are only different in the bottom mast part (more bend in the smaller rigs) and the sail. Everything else is the same.
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Enterprise 20361 (Eisvogel), Laser 102727 (Halcyon), Laser 121986
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JimC
Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6649 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 4:52pm |
Well the 4.7 is a bigger heavier longer boat. Without getting into the science being longer means it goes marginally faster, but because its bigger and heavier it can't react so quickly so doesn't necessarily feel faster, and you're not really going to learn anything sailing one you wouldn't learn sailing the other. techniques are much the same. Yeah, you could get the bigger sail as you get older, but so what? Its easy enough to sell a Topper and buy a Laser. When you get older, who knows - you might want to sail two handers, you might want to play rock and roll and not go sailing, so best to get the thing that seems right for you now and let a year or two's time worry about itself. |
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Ocashell
Newbie Joined: 23 Aug 17 Location: Southwold, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 4:44pm |
Ok, my friend has a topper, I'll have to try it out. As for the 4.7, It is apparently a bit faster. Would it mean I could progress onto the bigger sail as I get older?
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Eisvogel
Posting king Joined: 09 Dec 16 Location: Birmingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 135 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 9:03am |
My daughters (14 and 16) have done a lot of sailing in our club Toppers, and earlier this year we bought a Laser. They really like the Laser, and despite being relatively lightweight, mostly sail with the full rig (we also have got a 4.7 rig) unless the wind is really strong.
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Enterprise 20361 (Eisvogel), Laser 102727 (Halcyon), Laser 121986
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JimC
Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6649 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 8:23am |
If you want to travel and get into the serious racing side the Topper is a good choice because there is so much coaching and competition available. I like it better than the Laser 4.7, which to my mind is a tiny rig on a great big boat. If that isn't your enthusiasm, and there's no reason why it should be then the choice is rather wider.
There's a lot to be said for just getting a ride in as many different types of boats as you can and seeing what appeals to you. After all you want a boat you like, not the boat the most convincing dodgy used care salesman on the forum likes! |
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zeon
Far too distracted from work Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 17 at 8:11am |
A splash would be perfect for you and you are in the right part of the world to pick up a second hand one. Also as you get bigger you could get the bigger flash rig for it.
Failing that, its the normal suspects for lighter sailors, lightning 368, byte, streaker, comet etc
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