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Papa Smurf
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Topic: Step 2, RS 300? Posted: 20 Jul 17 at 8:10pm |
Ahh. Yes. I take your point
The Phantom is a very nice boat. And I do like pies. Try before you buy seems the way to go. |
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Do Different
Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 17 at 10:10pm |
BTW. iGRF not being able to sail a boat and it being a bad boat are not always the same thing.
FWIW. I had one when they first came along, like you quite early after a few Laser seasons. Really not so bad as some make out, capsize recovery a doddle, gybe all day long up to medium breeze anyway, I was over-horsed in truth with a big rig (2nd hand so got what was about) @ 5ft 4in & <12st, especially where I was at sea. I gave up on it because I struggled to tack reliably in waves and sailing out of a tight and strongly tidal harbour, I thought one day I'd get it wrong in the wrong place. I have tried to be honest in relating my experience with it; same boat with same experience but on a lake and I reckon I'd have kept it for a long while.
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 17 at 11:24pm |
When your young, have plenty of time and enthusiasm to beat every challenge, then fine go for difficult challenges.. I'm not young, my time now is strictly limited, every year some damn glitch happens to the running gear, so my opinion gets swayed by that, if something is obviously difficult it quickly gets bunged into the wastebasket by the door marked too difficult to bother with.
When I first started this Lark it took me an entire Summer of refusing to be beaten by a stupid boat, 18 capsizes I recall in one race, but it wasn't going to beat me so I soldiered on, never having been beaten ever by anything I've decided to turn my hand to, I did even manage to win a couple of races in light weather in it, but then went on a training course where it became very clear from watching the 'good guys' and their body language when faced with a stiff breeze, there was never going to be a snowballs chance in hell for me at my build to cope with so many fixed issues,ever since then I'm fairly quick to spot what is and isn't possible. It took me one beat and a wild run back to the jetty to put that 300 in the bin by the door, I'll not bother to step in one ever again, pointless exercise for me and there are dozens of boats I've yet to try and not many years left to do it. Edited by iGRF - 20 Jul 17 at 11:25pm |
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Do Different
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 17 at 7:19am |
Thanks iGRF, a nice and logical reply with your sensible head on.
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 17 at 12:52pm |
Sorry to be late to the party - but if you like the look of a Phantom but are worried you are too light perhaps consider a Hadron H2?
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Papa Smurf
Newbie Joined: 23 Apr 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Oct 17 at 4:52pm |
I like to have someone to race against.
Racing all boats in a handicap event is good, but it's easier to compare yourself against someone in the same boat when you're fleet racing. I'm leaning towards the Solution because I like the boat. However no one else sails them where I'm based and I'd need to travel to meet and learn from others in the same boat. We have a growing Streaker fleet, which is where the more experienced heads tell me I should be pointing. Again I like the look of the new revamped version of the boat and there would be direct competition... The H2, like the Solution suffers in comparison to the older more popular classes in that there aren't many about to play with. I'm in two minds which boat to go for. I'm a little heavy for the Streaker and it's slower than a Laser apparently, which feels like the wrong direction to be going. If the Streaker had a more powerful, modern sail it would be an easier decision. The heart says Solution, the head Streaker. I have the winter off-season to save my pennies and work out which to go for. |
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